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Tim Shoppa <SHOPPA(a)trailing-edge.com> wrote:
And Tapes 6 and 7 seem to be a complete distribution
set of 4.2BSD,
they ought to form a good replacement for the supposedly damaged and
incomplete set in /Distributions/4bsd/4.2BSD.
[contents skipped, perfectly matches CSRG 4.2BSD dist]
Yes, please read them and I'll put them in the archive. I maintain the 4BSD
area.
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In article by Tim Shoppa:
On an Expedition to NJ Tuesday, I rescued about 3/4 of
a ton of magtapes.
Tape 1:
AT&T 60462
Unix System V Release 2.0
VAX Version 2 for 11/780 and 11/750
TPName: Root and Selectables
Yes please, I have sysVR0 in the archive at the moment.
Tape 2:
AT&T 60463
Unix System V Release 2.0
VAX Version 2 for 11/780 and 11/750
TPName: USR File System
Yes please. Don't have it yet!
Tape 3:
UNIX* System III
PDP 11/70,45 - 800 BPI
Could be the same as Distributions/usdl/SysIII, but read it anyway!
And Tapes 6 and 7 seem to be a complete distribution
set of 4.2BSD,
they ought to form a good replacement for the supposedly damaged and
incomplete set in /Distributions/4bsd/4.2BSD.
Again, yes please!!!
Thanks Tim.
Warren
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Again, yes please!!!
Would it be useful if I also uploaded GIF's or JPG's or TIFF's of scans
of the labels on the original tapes? If so, is there any preference for
the format of the scan? These are all (as Tommy Smothers
would say) "the original virgin" tapes.
Tim.
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WOW. Great. Super !! :-)
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On an Expedition to NJ Tuesday, I rescued about 3/4 of a ton of magtapes.
Some of these will probably be interesting for the PUPS archive. In particular,
I'm reading through seven of 'em tonight. If someone could explain to
me how "Unix System V Release 2.0" and "Unix System III" work into
the
grand scheme of AT&T Unices already in the PUPS archive, and how 2.9.1 BSD
might be different from (or the same as) the 2.9 BSD stuff already in the
archive, I'd forever appreciate it :-).
The first two tapes are AT&T Unix System V tapes for VAXen:
Tape 1:
AT&T 60462
Unix System V Release 2.0
VAX Version 2 for 11/780 and 11/750
TPName: Root and Selectables
AT&T 60462
Dwg: j1p077c-3 List:1M1
TP No: OTP-1P550-01 IS: 2.0V2
Order: VX501404 Spec:000 Item:1
BPI 1600 Max Blksize: 05120 Files:0009
Date:01/13/86 Opr: jlc Drv: tu-2
Tape 2:
AT&T 60463
Unix System V Release 2.0
VAX Version 2 for 11/780 and 11/750
TPName: USR File System
AT&T 60463
Dwg: j1p077c-3 List:2m2
TP No: OTP-1P550-02 IS: 2.0V2
Order: UX501404 Spec:000 Item:1
BPI 1600 Max Blksize: 05120 Files:0009
Date:01/13/86 Opr: jlc Drv: tu-0
The third tape is UNIX System III from AT&T:
Tape 3:
UNIX* System III
PDP 11/70,45 - 800 BPI
Release Tape #1
*UNIX is a trademark of Bell Laboratories
Restricted Rights
Use Duplication or Disclosure is Subject
To Restrictions Stated in your contract with
American Telephone & Telegraph
The Fourth and Fifth tape are either 2.9BSD or 2.9.1BSD (I
can't tell the difference until I compare these tapes with the
files already in the PUPS archives):
Tape 4:
Berkeley UNIX (Rev. 2.9.1) 2.9BSD
Sun Nov 20 14:55:50 PST 1983
800 BPI HT/TM boot tape. For tar files
skip the first 7 tape files with
``mt -t /dev/nrmt0 fsf 7''
Reel 1 of 2 Tape #
Tape 5:
Berkeley UNIX (Rev. 2.9.1) 2.9BSD
Sun Nov 20 14:55:50 PST 1983
800 BPI Tar of /usr/src
Reel 2 of 2
And Tapes 6 and 7 seem to be a complete distribution set of 4.2BSD,
they ought to form a good replacement for the supposedly damaged and
incomplete set in /Distributions/4bsd/4.2BSD.
Tape 6:
4.2bsd VAX UNIX System 8/23/83
6 files on tape:
1 (boot stuff) 2 (mini root)
3 ((root dump) 4 (/sys) 5 (/usr)
6 (/usr/lib/vfont)
last three are tar; 1600 bpi
Tape 7:
4.2bsd VAX UNIX System 8/23/83
tape 2: 3 files on tape
1 (/usr/src)
2 (user contributed software)
3 (/usr/ingres)
all files are tar; 1600 bpi
Like I said, there's about 3/4 of a ton of tapes in total, I'm sure there
are some other PUPS-related goodies deeper in the pile...
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> Again, yes please!!!
>
> Would it be useful if I also uploaded GIF's or JPG's or TIFF's of
scans
> of the labels on the original tapes? If so, is there any preference for
> the format of the scan? These are all (as Tommy Smothers
> would say) "the original virgin" tapes.
Well, I'm presently only a client of the archive, so to say, but why not use
png (the gif replacement advocated by the FSF). Better not use GIF for all
this licensing issues. And as far as I see, png can be shown by -- well --
Netscape, whereas TIFF requires a plugin or an external viewer.
Regards - Markus
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OK, I started sorting through some more piles of tapes, and I found
a one more thing that I'm-not-quite-sure-where-it-fits:
Two tapes labeled "Vol 1 of 2" and "Vol 2 of 2" and then "2.10.2
SMS
Unix". Steven, does this mean you know what's on this and how it's
different than the 2.10 and 2.10.1 stuff already in the archive? :-) Terry
didn't remember...
Also, more goodies that may (or may not) be appropriate to add:
* A 4.3BSD-Reno VAX tape dated "1/2/91". I suppose I have to get down
on my hands and knees and see how this differs from the version dated
"30 Jul 90" currently in Distributions/4bsd/4.3BSD-Reno. This has
the original UCB stickers on it.
* A set of tar files on a tape claiming to be the "4.4BSD snapshot
4/1/92". Is PUPS/TUHS collecting anything anything this late? Is
something like this already in Kirk's archive?
Tim.
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