Re: [TUHS] cat -v and other complaints

On Aug 29, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Clem cole <clemc(a)ccc.com> wrote: Truth is I think IBM beat Sun on getting loadable modules for the kernel out first. But I was counting the versions that people really looked at which is why I give Linux credit. It makes sense they modeled on SunOS btw but the fact is the Linux version is what folks like *BSD and macOS modeled after later. Btw you are 100% right - As for launchd I agree/no doubt - but I’d already given up on MacOS being able to be admin’ed like a Unix box. I can pretty much use it via iterm2 as a user like one and if mostly works as I expect (which I do appreciate). Linux is seductive enough to make think I should be able to admin it like I have for the last 40 years and it then bites me when I least expect it. Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not quite. >> On Aug 29, 2018, at 7:36 PM, Larry McVoy <lm(a)mcvoy.com> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 08:34:05AM +1000, Dave Horsfall wrote: >>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2018, Clem Cole wrote: >>> That said, I give the Linux folks great credit for the addition of modules >>> was huge and it took BSD and the other UNIX systems a few years really >>> pick up that idea in the same way (yes Solaris, Tru64 and eventually HPUX >>> etc.. had something too but again - my comment about being generally >>> available applies). >> >> Wasn't SunOS first with dynamic kernel modules, or is my memory worse than I >> thought? Linux may have been around at the time, but we never used in the >> shop until much later (Red Hat, nicknamed Dead Rat). > > Yep. And Linux has loadable modules because I posted the SunOS 4.x man > pages for the SunOS loadable modules to the kernel list. Proving once > again that the open source guys aren't always the greatest at coming up > with the ideas but once you show them that it can be done, it gets done > quickly. I think they had a prototype working in a week. > >> Never mind "systemd"; I'm having enough trouble coming to grips with >> "launchd" on the Mac... Gimme /etc/inetd.conf any time. > > Amen, brother.