22 Jan
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In article by Tom Ivar Helbekkmo:
Warren Toomey <wkt(a)henry.cs.adfa.edu.au>
writes:
Dennis is the one, bearded, on the left. Ken is sitting at the
terminal.
Warren
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Patrick Regan, from Bell Labs, has sent in a 2M
jpg of
Ken and Dennis at the console of a PDP-11/20, around 1970.
That's neat! I've got a very good print of it here (that huge Epson
color inkjet printer we bought at work really does a good job with the
expensive "photo quality" paper in it), and will frame it and hang it
on the wall of my basement machine room in my home. However (and my
ignorance is showing now, I know) who is whom in the picture? From Carl Lowenstein <cdl(a)mpl.ucsd.edu> Fri Jan
22 08:56:42 1999
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:50:59 +1100 (EST)
In article by alejandro gonzalez:
But the tape image also contains bootstraps for two kinds of tape drives
in the first 100 blocks. Followed by 3 x 4000-block RK05 images. More
than this I don't remember offhand, but I do have the "Setting up Unix"
document on a bookshelf somewhere in another office.
Can anyone point me to instructions on getting the tape in: Ken_Wellsch_v6
up and running on Supnik's Simulator? I have been trying some things, and
when it gives me the '=' prompt, anything i type makes the program freeze.
I have been following these instructions, the problem comes up when I
get the '=' prompt. I type: "tmrk", it just freezes.
The 6th Ed installation instructions say: The tape contains 12100 512-byte
records followed by a single file mark. Have you made the tape image for
Bob Supnik's emulator to match this, and what configuration file are you
giving to the emulator? P.S You can use the RK05 disk image in
Distributions/research/Dennis_v6/v6root.gz, or the RL02 image in
Bootable_Images/v6_rl02_unknown.gz,
unless you really do want to install V6 from tape.
The number of people in the world who have actually installed V6 from
tape is probably pretty small. But I am one of them, for better or worse.
carl
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On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Carl Lowenstein wrote:
The number of people in the world who have actually
installed V6 from
tape is probably pretty small. But I am one of them, for better or worse.
Me too :-) But I've long since forgotten the details...
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Subject: Memory Management
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The documentation that Warren gave me describes the memory management
scheme. It says that when the machine is first started, the memory
management unit is disabled -- anyone know how to enable it, and where the
segmentation registers are (I'm assuming they are in the 0160000-0177777
range somewhere)?
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All,
Here is how to install 6th Edition from the tape image v6.tape.gz
in Distributions/research/Ken_Wellsch_v6, onto Bob Supnik's emulator 2.3d:
I found makesimtape.c in Trees/2.11BSD/usr/src/sys/pdpstand in the
PUPS Archive.
Warren
/usr/local/src/Sim_2.3d: ls -l
total 14822
-rwx------ 1 wkt wheel 6018 Jan 22 11:18 makesimtape
-rwx------ 1 wkt wheel 117728 Jan 11 14:02 pdp
-rw------- 1 wkt wheel 42 Jan 22 11:27 v6
-r-------- 1 wkt wheel 6195200 Jan 22 11:20 v6.tape
-r-------- 1 wkt wheel 2494464 Jan 15 14:14 v6root
-rw------- 1 wkt wheel 14 Jan 22 11:23 z
/usr/local/src/Sim_2.3d: cat z # Input to makesimtape
v6.tape 1
* 1
/usr/local/src/Sim_2.3d: ./makesimtape -i z -o v6tape
v6.tape: block 0, file 0
# Output is file v6tape, not shown
/usr/local/src/Sim_2.3d: cat v6 # Supnik sim config file
set cpu 18b
att rk0 v6root
att tm0 v6tape
/usr/local/src/Sim_2.3d: ./pdp v6 # Run simulator
PDP-11 simulator V2.3d
sim> id 10000-10012 # Toggle in boot code
10000: 012700 # as per V6 install
10002: 172526 # instructions
10004: 010040
10006: 012740
10010: 060003
10012: 000777
sim> g 10000 # Run above boot code
# After a while, enter ctrl-E
Simulation stopped, PC: 010012 (BR 10012)
sim> g 0 # Restart CPU at location 0
=tmrk
disk offset # Follow instructions as per
0 # V6 install notes
tape offset
100
count
1
=tmrk
disk offset
1
tape offset
101
count
3999
= # Enter ctrl-E
Simulation stopped, PC: 137274 (TSTB @#177560)
sim> b rk # Boot RK device 0
@rkunix # Choose correct kernel image
login: root
# ls -l
total 244
drwxrwxr-x 2 bin 1104 May 14 00:47 bin
drwxrwxr-x 2 bin 1824 Aug 14 22:04 dev
drwxrwxr-x 2 bin 496 Oct 10 12:29 etc
-rwxrwxrwx 1 root 29074 Oct 10 12:28 hpunix
drwxrwxr-x 2 bin 464 May 13 23:35 lib
drwxrwxr-x 2 bin 32 May 13 20:01 mnt
-rwxrwxrwx 1 root 28836 Oct 10 12:22 rkunix
-rwxrwxrwx 1 root 29020 Oct 10 12:25 rpunix
drwxrwxrwx 2 bin 272 Jul 18 09:19 tmp
-rw-rw-rw- 1 root 28684 Jul 18 09:18 unix
drwxrwxr-x 14 bin 224 May 13 20:16 usr
# sync
# # Enter ctrl-E again
Simulation stopped, PC: 016022 (SOB R4,15746)
sim> q
Goodbye
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On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Erin W. Corliss wrote:
The documentation that Warren gave me describes the
memory management
scheme. It says that when the machine is first started, the memory
management unit is disabled -- anyone know how to enable it, and where the
segmentation registers are (I'm assuming they are in the 0160000-0177777
range somewhere)?
I'll check my PDP-11 manuals when I get home; if I have a spare one I'll
send it to you. What was the model again? An 11/70 or something?
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