I did hear back from Lou Katz - user #1. Indeed the first version that escaped the labs
was the 4th edition.
Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not quite.
On Sep 1, 2017, at 7:16 PM, Clem cole
<clemc(a)ccc.com> wrote:
Interesting. If O'Malley had a connection wonder what it was connected too on both
sides. It had to be to lbl but the Vdh was a piece of shit even in the ingvax days. The
first version was even worse. On the ucb side I wonder. It would not have been Unix
because UofI did the original arpanet code and that was for v6. There was never a pdp10
at ucb so I wonder if it was one of the CDC machines which were the primary systems until
Unix came to be.
Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not quite.
>> On Sep 1, 2017, at 5:59 PM, Jeremy C. Reed <reed(a)reedmedia.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 1 Sep 2017, Clem Cole wrote:
>>
>> So it means that UCB was hacking privately without taking to Katz@ NYU, or
>> the Columbia and Harvard folks for a while. I need to ask Lou what he
>> remembers. UCB was not connected to the Arpanet at this point (Stanford
>> was), so it's possible Ken's sabbatical openned up some channels that
had
>> not existed. [UCB does not get connected until ing70 gets the
>> vdh-interface up the hill to LBL's IMP as part of the Ingress project and
>> that was very late in the 70s - not long before I arrived].
>
> Allman told me that Mike O'Malley had an ARPA connection at UCB that was
> axed a few years before the INGRES link. So yes, I think no Arpanet
> connection during the early BSD development work. (Losing this
> connection may have had some controversy, but I don't know the details.)
>
> Fabry told me that O'Malley used Unix for his (EECS) Artificial
> Intelligence research projects before he discovered it (so before the
> October 1973 Symposium).
>
> RFC 402 of Oct 1972 has a ARPA network participant Michael O'Malley of
> University of Michigan Phonetics Laboratory. Also this draft report at
>
http://digitalcollections.library.cmu.edu/awweb/awarchive?type=file&iteā¦
> about the ARPA speech recognition project lists M. H. O'Malley at UCB
> and says the principle investigator from Univ. of Michigan moved to UCB.
> (I never go ahold of him to see if had any other relevance to my BSD
> story.)
>
>