4 Jan
2017
4 Jan
'17
6:24 p.m.
That's a good question. I was working for Sun at the time, and no one
I know was in favor of the switch - all we knew was that Scott McNealy
was cramming it down the throats of both Sun and Suns customers (or
that was the perception, anyway). I think they lost a lot of customers
because of that.
On 1/3/17, Larry McVoy <lm(a)mcvoy.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 10:23:28PM -0500, Dan Cross
wrote:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:00 PM, Warner Losh
<imp(a)bsdimp.com> wrote:
That might have been the Greg Limes release. I may be all wrong but
someone, I think it was Greg, busted their ass to try and make SunOS
4.x scale up on SMP machines. There were a lot of us at the time that
hated the SVr4 thing, it was such a huge step backwards.
I dunno how much you care about Sun history, but SunOS, the BSD based
stuff before 5.0, the engineers and the customers *loved* it. I was
not the first guy who worked until midnight on that OS, I wasn't even
on the radar screen. Guy Harris worked on it, tons of people worked
on it, tons of people poured their heart and soul into it. It crushed
us when they went to SVr4, that shit sucked.
My boss, Ken Okin, paid me for 6 months to go fight management to stop
the switch to SVr4. It was more than a decade later that I learned
that the reason for the switch was that Sun was out of money and AT&T
bought $200M of Sun stock at 35% over market but the deal was no more
SunOS, it had to be SVr4.
I really wonder what the world would look like right now if Sun had
open sourced SunOS 4.x and put energy behind it. I wrote a paper
about it, I still wonder.
http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/bitmover/lm/papers/srcos.html
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Larry McVoy
<lm(a)mcvoy.com> wrote:
My favorite version number was SunOS 4.1.4U1: I was told that the ``U1''
meant, "you won", as in "you won. Here's another BSD-based
release." I was in building 5 at Sun when they were
switching to SVr4 which
became
Solaris 2.0 (I think).
Solaris 2.0 was the first SVr4 version of Solaris. 4.1.{1,2,3} were
still BSD based, and Solaris 2.0 was SunOS 5.0 and OpenWindows.