14 Jun
2024
14 Jun
'24
1:37 a.m.
On Thu, Jun 13, 2024, at 14:39, segaloco via TUHS wrote:
[...]
Are there any known attempts in the modern age to roll
Linux with
something resembling research/BSD init? That would be a nice counter
to the proliferation of systemd. Even if it doesn't make a dent in the
actual uptake, at least it'd feel cathartic to have an alternative in
the opposite direction.
- Matt G.
I'm interested in hearing about other options in this space,
too. The ones that I'm aware of include:
1. Slackware
http://www.slackware.com/
2. Debian, with sysvinit-core or some other init
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/customizing.en.html#sysvinit
https://wiki.debian.org/Init
3. Devuan (for a Debian derived system w/o systemd)
https://www.devuan.org/
The most no-fuss, just-works-out-of-the-box-without-systemd approach
would probably be to use Slackware.
Debian can be easily customized to run without systemd, once you
know the formulas[0].
I did not include Alpine Linux[1] in the above list because it
includes lots of tools in a single executable (possibly "init").[2]
It does not use systemd by default, though.
I mention Devuan only because I'm aware of it -- I've never used it
in anger.
-Al
[0] Even on a systemd-infected host, it isn't much more complicated
than:
* install the 'sysvinit-core' package (and friends)
* pin the 'systemd-sysv' package to '-1' (never install)
* reboot
* purge most (or all) packages with 'systemd' in their name
[1] https://www.alpinelinux.org/about/
[2] It's great in certain circumstances, though -- it's my go-to
distro base for most of my small-footprint-scenarios work with
Linux containers.