11 Jun
2003
11 Jun
'03
11:17 p.m.
Hello from Gregg C Levine
Wes, I remember " Cromix from Cromemco", the company made Single Board
Computers, I think they started making replacement hardware for the
Imsai family. I didn't know that they had cloned, or something like
that, for example UNIX, under its name. Heck, I even came within some
order of magnitude of buying a setup from them, then.
Funny, funny, the first Get Away Special, wore one of those, the
school who built the thing, used a kludge from RS to program it.
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-----Original Message-----
From: tuhs-bounces(a)minnie.tuhs.org
[mailto:tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org] On
Behalf Of Wesley Parish
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:52 AM
To: tuhs(a)tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] This is too weird
And Coherent!
No, SCO has lost it, and lost all chance of ever regaining the trust
of anyone
with the barest skerrick of knowledge of Unix
history.
I checked out an interesting web site:
http://www.robotwisdom.com/linux/nonnix.html
I had no idea that cloning Unix had gotten off to such an early
start - Idris
from Plauger et al., Cromix from Cromemco,
Yourdon's Omnix, Oasis,
etc.
SCO hasn't got a leg to stand on - on the other hand, are those
toenails I
see
stuck in its teeth?
Wesley Parish
On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 15:02, Kenneth Stailey wrote:
> --- Warren Toomey <wkt(a)tuhs.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 11:49:05AM -0700, Kenneth Stailey wrote:
> > > It just keeps getting weirder:
> > > http://www.sco.com/scosource/unixtree/unixhistory01.html
> >
> > Well, if SCO is claiming intellecutal property rights to Linux,
why
> > are they intimating that they will sue
Linus?
> >
> > This is becoming an alternate reality.
> >
> > Warren
>
> When we find out that there's SCO code in Cygwin call me. ;)
>
> The chart is a good way to confuse things. The poor guy that made
the
> original must be crying that he let SCO use it
years ago.
>
> The part that confuses me is that I remember there were dotted
lines one on
> the original UNIX history chart that showed
non-source-code-copying
> influences and now even the real UNIX history
chart is using only
solid
> lines. It makes MINIX look like it has 7th Ed
code in it instead
of just
> being a 7th Ed API implementation from scratch
like it is.
>
> That's the part that's really on drugs by the time SCO is using it
as
> evidence that there is a Linux pedigree or
whatever that connects
7th Ed to
> Linux.
>
> I think the real story is that they want to make as much press as
they can
> since it boosts their stock.
>
> Meanwhile every time they say they own UNIX they are complete
liars because:
> >
http://www.sco.com/scosource/linuxqanda.html
> >
> > As the owners of the UNIX operating system, it is incumbent upon
SCO to
>
> To what? Violate their agreements with The Open Group?
>
> http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/05/23/1053585678840.html
>
> "Reference to the SCO web site shows that they own certain
intellectual
> property and that they correctly attribute the
trademark to The
Open Group.
> SCO has never owned "UNIX". SCO is
licensed to use the registered
> trademark UNIX "on and in connection" with their products that
have
been
> certified by The Open Group, as are all other
licensees," the
statement
> said.
>
> "These are the only circumstances in which a licensee may use the
trademark
> UNIX on and in connection with its products.
Statements that SCO
'owns the
> UNIX operating system', has 'licensed
UNIX to XYZ' are clearly
inaccurate
and
misleading."
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