17 Oct
2023
17 Oct
'23
1:49 a.m.
Yes - I send a fairly detailed history, including pics but Warren's mailer
did not allow them.
Here is the short form:
ber did two printings of 4.1 [white/without and later, with BTL covers],
the second printing had the Marx supplement.
ber helped to facilitate the 4.2 printing with the BSD daemons - although
USENIX bankrolled it and did the distribution.
I do not know for sure who the editor for the 4.3 [colored combs + BSD
daemons] was [I think Keith, with help from Mike and Sam], but USENIX and
CSRG did that printing. and the distribution.
By the time of 4.4, USENIX approached Tim OReilly who used his own
printing, and binding set up - hence "perfect binding" not combs.
Clem
On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 2:42 PM Mary Ann Horton <mah(a)mhorton.net> wrote:
My vol 2C is comb bound with the Bell logo on the
front and back cover.
It matches what Matt describes below: Date November 1980, hand-written
part 55 (Curses) on TOC, Curses included.
I personally wrote "4.1 BSD Vol 2C" on the spine of my comb version, and
"4.1 BSD Vol 1" on the spine of the other comb bound, which were clearly a
set. (We were expected to use the V7 vol 2a and 2b, as they were not
changed.) Vol 1's title page is dated June, 1981". The preface of Vol 1
adds 3 paragraphs beginning "This update to the fourth distribution of
November, 1980 provides support for the VAX 11/750 and for the full
interconnect architecture of the VAX 11/780. ..." This paragraph is not
dated but would seem to be from June 1981.
I don't recall who ran the set of manuals in Bell Labs, but it wasn't done
at Columbus. Someone was kind enough to send me a set.
I'm inclined to believe Matt is right about vol 2C not being updated
except by pencil and the Curses section.
Interestingly, I also have a "UNIX 3.0 Vol 1" comb bound manual with the
same style of cover, same personal spine label, probably done at the same
time, likely by the same group. I don't recall who but I'll speculate it
was someone at MH or WH. Possibly Brian Redman?
Thanks,
*Mary Ann Horton* (she/her/ma'am)
maryannhorton.com
“This is a great book about an amazing journey of a woman
who went through hell to become the person she is today.”
* - Monica Helms, creator of the transgender flag*
"Brave and Important - Don’t miss this wonderful book!"
* - Laura L. Engel, Intl. Memoir Writers Assn.*
Available on Amazon and bn.com. Audiobook on Google Play.
<https://www.amazon.com/Trailblazer-Lighting-Transgender-Equality-Corporate-ebook/dp/B0B8F2BR9B>
On 10/14/23 22:49, segaloco wrote:
One thing worth noting, I think, not sure, but I think the contents
suggest the 4BSD rather than 4.1BSD set, I can't tell for certain because I
actually can't locate a 4.1BSD doc folder with the Volume 2C intro and TOC.
The physical article (as well as a Acco binder copy I also have) both
indicate November 1980 (as opposed to 4.1BSDs June 1981.) Curiously, the
comb bound one has one extra entry in the TOC written in by hand: the
curses paper. Indeed it is the last in the comb bound manual and not
present in my Acco-bound copy.
Not conclusive of anything but just an observation, I can't track down an
authoritatively-sourced copy of the doc/vmunix folder where the original of
the TOC lives in 4BSD. The 4BSD typesetter sources of the TOC match what is
in both copies I have, minus the hand-written curses inclusion.
It very well could be the Volume 2C version of the TOC stopped being
maintained around this time as I likewise don't see the doc/vmunix folder
in 4.1c or 4.2. Either way, just something I found odd, I can't 100%
confirm parity with what would be in /usr/doc on a standard 4.1BSD distro,
I'll have to go digging and see what I have though, I feel like I archived
away some 4.1BSD stuff I found somewhere that had some delta with what is
in the UNIX tree. Not going to draw any firm conclusions until I put eyes
on doc sources though. That said, it wouldn't surprise me if the manual
amounts to more of a "4.0b", being the 4BSD set with some incremental
changes towards 4.1. But again, nothing to back that up, just my initial
impression.
- Matt G.
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On Saturday, October 14th, 2023 at 8:19 PM, Mary Ann Horton
<mah(a)mhorton.net> <mah(a)mhorton.net> wrote:
I checked my bookshelf - my 4.1BSD manuals are the same Bell Labs printing
as the two Worthpoint links below. AFAIK they are a vanilla printing of the
soft copy from the 4.1 BSD tape.
If there is any value to documenting this further, please let me know.
Thanks,
*Mary Ann Horton* (she/her/ma'am)
maryannhorton.com
“This is a great book about an amazing journey of a woman
who went through hell to become the person she is today.”
* - Monica Helms, creator of the transgender flag*
"Brave and Important - Don’t miss this wonderful book!"
* - Laura L. Engel, Intl. Memoir Writers Assn.*
Available on Amazon and bn.com. Audiobook on Google Play.
<https://www.amazon.com/Trailblazer-Lighting-Transgender-Equality-Corporate-ebook/dp/B0B8F2BR9B>
On 10/9/23 19:11, Jonathan Gray wrote:
On Mon, Oct 09, 2023 at 04:17:36PM +0000, segaloco via TUHS wrote:
Spotted this and ordered it on eBay https://www.ebay.com/itm/235246689392
After the link is a pretty nondescript comb-bound 4.1BSD User's
Manual Volume 2C. I don't think I've seen comb-bound issues prior
to the USENIX 4.2BSD set that introduced the Beastie cover. Does
anyone know if there was a limited run produced by the Berkeley
folks themselves or if this is more likely a one-off someone printed
for themselves? Either way, this is an exciting find for the
completeness of my library, this would leave 3BSD as the only VAX
BSD version I don't have any Volume 2C papers in my bookshelf from.
If this does prove to be issue from Berkeley or someone directly
adjacent to them, the next thing I hope to figure out is if this
has Volume 1 and Volume 2A/2B companions. I find myself curious
because the 4BSD Volume 2C I have was following a plain Jane Version
7 Volume 2A/2B rather than also 4BSD 2A/2B, so whoever curated that
set either got them that way or clobbered V7 and 4BSD docs together
themselves.
Brian Ehrmantraut's photo has two 4.1BSD
volumes:https://www.facebook.com/groups/internetoldfarts/posts/722465582733…
Link from when the Wollongong Group version of the commentary was
mentioned here.
There was a Bell Laboratories printing of the 4.1BSD
manuals.https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1981-bell-laboratories-unix-…
A list of documents included with the distribution can be found in
doc/vmunix/cover*. Below text from 4.1a.tar.gz included in the CSRG
Archives.
July 8, 1981
This is a full distribution kit for the second release of
the Fourth Berkeley software tape, known as 4.1bsd. The
package you received should have contained:
1) Either a 2400' 1600 bpi magnetic tape or two RK07 disk
cartridges containing the basic system software; this
is the bootstrap distribution media. A second 2400'
1600 bpi tape or a third RK07 disk cartridge contains
additional material beyond the basic system on the
first tape (INGRES, source for documents in the
manuals, bit mapped fonts, etc.)
2) Documents titled ``Installing and operating 4.1bsd'',
``Bug fixes and changes in 4.1bsd'', ``Changes to the
kernel in 4.1bsd'', and ``Hints on configuring VAX
systems for UNIX''
3) A two sided copy of volume 1 of the programmer's
manual.
4) A single sided, reproduction-quality copy of Volume 1
of the programmer's manual for the system.
5) A copy of a document describing fsck.
6) A two sided copy of volumes 2a and 2b of the
programmer's manual.
7) A single sided, reproduction-quality, copy of Volume 2c
of the programmer's manual for the system.
8) 2 Vi Reference Cards and a master for reproducing
cards.
9) Three documents describing the Berkeley Network.
10) Two documents on the internals of the Pascal system.
manual and a new table of contents for volume 2c.
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