27 Jun
2024
27 Jun
'24
6:05 p.m.
We had just a little more than 60 people involved in
the /usr/group effort, with David Buck, Don Kretsch
and Eric Petersen as co-editors. The IEEE POSIX
POSIX standards effort had hundreds of participants.
But we did have all of the major companies involved
in the UNIX market participating.
Heinz
On 6/27/2024 7:34 AM, Clem Cole wrote:
On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 7:59 AM Dan Cross <crossd(a)gmail.com> wrote:
A way to verify this would be to look for attendee lists from early
POSIX meetings, though I'm having trouble locating them.
I was the original editor (more in a minute), and I believe I have an
early draft on my Masscomp machine, which is currently not powered up.
I'll try to add it to my to-do list to bring this online. The first
section has an attendee list.
I also have (in a box in my attic) some of the original handouts,
including minutes. That is already on my to-do list.
My initialsearch turned up this document, a 1995 retrospective
from Hal
Jespersen, where he credits Stallman for coining the name "POSIX":
https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/210308.210313.
I just read it. Much is correct, but that document has numerous
errors, including the transition from /usr/group to IEEE (which Heinz
and I were involved in - Hal was not). I'll send a number of
updates/corrections later.For instance, the C standard was not related
to the UNIX standard and was not originally championed by /usr/group -
but rather the PC-based folks.
Remember, this document came about before the age of laptops. We made
changes and suggestions during the meetings. The /usr/group document
was edited offlineafter the meetings (Heinz may remember who did that
work). We started the same process by the time we transitioned to
IEEE. Since the meetings were originally held currently with a
/usr/group // UNIForum or USENIX event, they were always near one of
the Masscomp field offices. I told Jim that I could (and did) arrange
for a loaner Masscomp system with a number of Wyse-60 terminals to be
there for our meeting.
By the way, Jim was worried that all documents were following the IEEE
rules of being numbered and correctly indexed. But by editing at the
meeting and starting with the /usr/group document, we did turn it into
an IEEE-style draft in under two years. As a result, I ended up as
the defacto editor for the first few drafts. As I said, I believe I
have an early copy (in troff, of course) on my Masscomp box.
Clem
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