[TUHS] Re: Found: 4.1BSD User's Manual Volume 2C Comb-Bound

My vol 2C is comb bound with the Bell logo on the front and back cover. It matches what Matt describes below: Date November 1980, hand-written part 55 (Curses) on TOC, Curses included. I personally wrote "4.1 BSD Vol 2C" on the spine of my comb version, and "4.1 BSD Vol 1" on the spine of the other comb bound, which were clearly a set. (We were expected to use the V7 vol 2a and 2b, as they were not changed.) Vol 1's title page is dated June, 1981". The preface of Vol 1 adds 3 paragraphs beginning "This update to the fourth distribution of November, 1980 provides support for the VAX 11/750 and for the full interconnect architecture of the VAX 11/780. ..." This paragraph is not dated but would seem to be from June 1981. I don't recall who ran the set of manuals in Bell Labs, but it wasn't done at Columbus. Someone was kind enough to send me a set. I'm inclined to believe Matt is right about vol 2C not being updated except by pencil and the Curses section. Interestingly, I also have a "UNIX 3.0 Vol 1" comb bound manual with the same style of cover, same personal spine label, probably done at the same time, likely by the same group. I don't recall who but I'll speculate it was someone at MH or WH. Possibly Brian Redman? Thanks, Mary Ann Horton (she/her/ma'am) maryannhorton.com “This is a great book about an amazing journey of a woman who went through hell to become the person she is today.” - Monica Helms, creator of the transgender flag "Brave and Important - Don’t miss this wonderful book!" - Laura L. Engel, Intl. Memoir Writers Assn. Available on Amazon and bn.com. Audiobook on Google Play. On 10/14/23 22:49, segaloco wrote: > One thing worth noting, I think, not sure, but I think the contents suggest the 4BSD rather than 4.1BSD set, I can't tell for certain because I actually can't locate a 4.1BSD doc folder with the Volume 2C intro and TOC. The physical article (as well as a Acco binder copy I also have) both indicate November 1980 (as opposed to 4.1BSDs June 1981.) Curiously, the comb bound one has one extra entry in the TOC written in by hand: the curses paper. Indeed it is the last in the comb bound manual and not present in my Acco-bound copy. > > Not conclusive of anything but just an observation, I can't track down an authoritatively-sourced copy of the doc/vmunix folder where the original of the TOC lives in 4BSD. The 4BSD typesetter sources of the TOC match what is in both copies I have, minus the hand-written curses inclusion. > > It very well could be the Volume 2C version of the TOC stopped being maintained around this time as I likewise don't see the doc/vmunix folder in 4.1c or 4.2. Either way, just something I found odd, I can't 100% confirm parity with what would be in /usr/doc on a standard 4.1BSD distro, I'll have to go digging and see what I have though, I feel like I archived away some 4.1BSD stuff I found somewhere that had some delta with what is in the UNIX tree. Not going to draw any firm conclusions until I put eyes on doc sources though. That said, it wouldn't surprise me if the manual amounts to more of a "4.0b", being the 4BSD set with some incremental changes towards 4.1. But again, nothing to back that up, just my initial impression. > > - Matt G. > ------- Original Message ------- > On Saturday, October 14th, 2023 at 8:19 PM, Mary Ann Horton <mah(a)mhorton.net> wrote: > > > > I checked my bookshelf - my 4.1BSD manuals are the same Bell Labs printing as the two Worthpoint links below. AFAIK they are a vanilla printing of the soft copy from the 4.1 BSD tape. > > > > If there is any value to documenting this further, please let me know. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mary Ann Horton (she/her/ma'am) > > maryannhorton.com > > > > “This is a great book about an amazing journey of a woman > > who went through hell to become the person she is today.” > > - Monica Helms, creator of the transgender flag > > > > "Brave and Important - Don’t miss this wonderful book!" > > - Laura L. Engel, Intl. Memoir Writers Assn. > > > > Available on Amazon and bn.com. Audiobook on Google Play. > > > > > > On 10/9/23 19:11, Jonathan Gray wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Oct 09, 2023 at 04:17:36PM +0000, segaloco via TUHS wrote: > > > > > > > Spotted this and ordered it on eBay https://www.ebay.com/itm/235246689392 > > > > > > > > After the link is a pretty nondescript comb-bound 4.1BSD User's > > > > Manual Volume 2C. I don't think I've seen comb-bound issues prior > > > > to the USENIX 4.2BSD set that introduced the Beastie cover. Does > > > > anyone know if there was a limited run produced by the Berkeley > > > > folks themselves or if this is more likely a one-off someone printed > > > > for themselves? Either way, this is an exciting find for the > > > > completeness of my library, this would leave 3BSD as the only VAX > > > > BSD version I don't have any Volume 2C papers in my bookshelf from. > > > > If this does prove to be issue from Berkeley or someone directly > > > > adjacent to them, the next thing I hope to figure out is if this > > > > has Volume 1 and Volume 2A/2B companions. I find myself curious > > > > because the 4BSD Volume 2C I have was following a plain Jane Version > > > > 7 Volume 2A/2B rather than also 4BSD 2A/2B, so whoever curated that > > > > set either got them that way or clobbered V7 and 4BSD docs together > > > > themselves. > > > > > > Brian Ehrmantraut's photo has two 4.1BSD volumes: > > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/internetoldfarts/posts/722465582733996/ > > > Link from when the Wollongong Group version of the commentary was > > > mentioned here. > > > > > > There was a Bell Laboratories printing of the 4.1BSD manuals. > > > https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1981-bell-laboratories-unix-users-19… > > > https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1980-bell-laboratories-unix-19475783… > > > > > > A list of documents included with the distribution can be found in > > > doc/vmunix/cover*. Below text from 4.1a.tar.gz included in the CSRG > > > Archives. > > > > > > July 8, 1981 > > > > > > > > > This is a full distribution kit for the second release of > > > the Fourth Berkeley software tape, known as 4.1bsd. The > > > package you received should have contained: > > > > > > 1) Either a 2400' 1600 bpi magnetic tape or two RK07 disk > > > cartridges containing the basic system software; this > > > is the bootstrap distribution media. A second 2400' > > > 1600 bpi tape or a third RK07 disk cartridge contains > > > additional material beyond the basic system on the > > > first tape (INGRES, source for documents in the > > > manuals, bit mapped fonts, etc.) > > > > > > 2) Documents titled ``Installing and operating 4.1bsd'', > > > ``Bug fixes and changes in 4.1bsd'', ``Changes to the > > > kernel in 4.1bsd'', and ``Hints on configuring VAX > > > systems for UNIX'' > > > > > > 3) A two sided copy of volume 1 of the programmer's > > > manual. > > > > > > 4) A single sided, reproduction-quality copy of Volume 1 > > > of the programmer's manual for the system. > > > > > > 5) A copy of a document describing fsck. > > > > > > 6) A two sided copy of volumes 2a and 2b of the > > > programmer's manual. > > > > > > 7) A single sided, reproduction-quality, copy of Volume 2c > > > of the programmer's manual for the system. > > > > > > 8) 2 Vi Reference Cards and a master for reproducing > > > cards. > > > > > > 9) Three documents describing the Berkeley Network. > > > > > > 10) Two documents on the internals of the Pascal system. > > > manual and a new table of contents for volume 2c.