8 Sep
2024
8 Sep
'24
8:08 a.m.
On 8/09/24 14:19, Larry McVoy wrote:
On Sat, Sep 07, 2024 at 05:52:29PM -0600, Warner Losh
wrote:
I wish there was some way we could get the remnants of the Unix(tm)
companies together for long enough to sign something along the lines of
the "Statement Regarding Research Unix Editions 8, 9, and 10"
https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/Research/Dan_Cross_v8/
"Statement Regarding Research Unix Editions 8, 9, and 10 Alcatel-Lucent
USA Inc. (“ALU-USA”), on behalf of itself and Nokia Bell Laboratories
agrees, to the extent of its ability to do so, that it will not assert
its copyright rights with respect to any non-commercial copying,
distribution, performance, display or creation of derivative works of
Research Unix®1 Editions 8, 9, and 10. The foregoing does not (i)
transfer ownership of, or relinquish any, intellectual property rights
(including patent rights) of Nokia Corporation, ALU-USA or any of their
affiliates, (ii) grant a license to any patent, patent application, or
trademark of Nokia Corporation, ALU-USA. or any of their affiliates,
(iii) grant any third-party rights or licenses, or (iv) grant any rights
for commercial purposes. Neither ALU-USA. nor Nokia Bell Laboratories
will furnish or provided support for Research Unix Editions 8, 9, and
10, and make no warranties or representations hereunder, including but
not limited to any warranty or representation that Research Unix
Editions 8, 9, and 10 does not infringe any third party intellectual
property rights or that Research Unix Editions 8, 9, and 10 is fit for
any particular purpose."
for their various versions of Unix that are no longer in development but
still have historical interest for the rest of us.
Wesley Parish
On Sat, Sep 7, 2024, 4:53???PM Greg
'groggy' Lehey <grog(a)lemis.com> wrote:
My personal opinion on these old operating systems is don't set up a store
and try make money from it and you are golden. Don't set up a website and
say "Get Unix for free here".
It's sort of like dirt where I live. Technically, you can't move more than
5 yards without a permit. Yet people do it all the time, they just don't
advertise it.
And no offense to the ancient Unix versions but I'm not sure anyone really
wants them for anything other than history. Nor should they. I'm a SunOS
guy, huge fan, it's where I learned how to be a kernel guy. Would I want
to run that rather than Linux today? Oh, hell, no. Everything works on
Linux, graphics, sound, video, email attachments, so much of that was a
mess on SunOS and a bigger mess on other systems, including peers of
SunOS.
If there was value in BSD/OS the lawyers would come after you but there is
no value other than history.
On Wednesday, 4 September 2024 at 4:49:47
-0400, Jim Carpenter wrote:
No one is left to go after you for diing so. Wind river left bsdi support
behind years ago....
On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 3:33???AM Kevin Bowling
<kevin.bowling(a)kev009.com>
wrote:
> Many of the BSD/OS versions have disc images
on archive.org or
> osarchive.org where the 7.4GB rar file was helpful for getting a 5.1
> contrib disc since the archive.org one is corrupt. So the binaries
> and source seem fairly well preserved for future explorers.
Check again. The contrib image in the 7.4GB rar has the same hash as
the one on archive.org and elsewhere. I have no idea if the install
image is 100% correct. Hell, it's possible every image in that archive
and on archive.org is bad. I just don't know.
So if anybody has any BSD/OS CDs please speak up.
I have CDs of 2.0, 2.1 and 3.0. I had 1.x, but I can't put my hands
on them right now. Maybe they were on QIC tape, in which case they're
probably unrecoverable. I also have source trees for 4.0, 4.1 and the
development version of 5.0 which I used to write the code for FreeBSD.
What's the legal situation about distributing them?