24 Mar
2017
24 Mar
'17
7:05 a.m.
This reminds me of Rodger Faulkner. Ron and Rodger would have gotten on
very well.
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 01:03:03AM +0000, ron minnich wrote:
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 5:28 PM Larry McVoy
<lm(a)mcvoy.com> wrote:
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Larry McVoy lm at mcvoy.com http://www.mcvoy.com/lm
I think Ron is just in Grumpy Old Man mode (he's a friend, we go way back,
so I get to say that :)
Personally, I sort of get the ls<something> model. ls is how you list
things, <something> is how you say what you want to list. Is it Unix
like? Hmm, perhaps not.
like larry said. I'm a grumpy old man. And lspci is not Unix. And neither
is anything we use nowadays that begins with ls and has more than 2 letters.
In Unix, resources have names. They are visible in a name space, organized
into directories. The names can be enumerated by opening and reading a
directory. Information about them can be determined with stat. Their
contents can be read by open and read. They can be changed with open and
write.
it's a pretty simple and consistent model. And it works just fine with,
e.g., the the Plan 9 pnp device. From my point of view, if a user needs
lspci to enumerate PCI resources, it's because the kernel has fallen down
on the job by failing to support the Unix model.
I can argue this point all day, but I'll let it go at that :-)
thanks
ron
p.s. It's not you, it's me. "You, sir, are a curmudgeon" -- Rob
Pike, to
me, on 9fans. As a result of this note, while I was at Los Alamos I was
assigned curmudgeon(a)lanl.gov. Made my day.