23 Jan
2018
23 Jan
'18
10:27 a.m.
Well, the problem is not unique to C. If Python has such a
mechanism it doesn't seem to be used by TensorFlow. If a TF
operation finds an error, in execution, there is, so far as I know, no
way for the error to refer back to the source Python code, or even the
variable names involved. You have to say "name=..." for any op for
which you want to know the name -- otherwise, TensorFlow gives them
internal names that, for large designs, can be very hard to decode.
(Of course, in TensorFlow, most of the heavy lifting is done by C++
called by a Python wrapper, that further "enhances" the debugging
experience)
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Winalski" <paul.winalski(a)gmail.com>
To:"Steve Johnson" <scj(a)yaccman.com>
Cc:"Clem Cole" <clemc(a)ccc.com>, "TUHS main list"
<tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org>
Sent:Fri, 29 Dec 2017 20:52:00 -0500
Subject:Re: [TUHS] origin of C header files
On 12/29/17, Steve Johnson <scj(a)yaccman.com> wrote:
I begged Dennis for a solution, and he came up with
#line,
which allowed you to say to the C compiler "treat the next line as
if
it were line nnn in file fff, and following lines as
successor
lines
in file fff. It instantly solved the problem, and was
used multiple
times for various applications (probably most notably cfront). So
far as I know, many languages including FORTRAN, Pascal and Python
do
not have such a mechanism, making it awkward to use
them as
preprocessor targets.
Language processing systems where the preprocessor functionality is
implemented as a part of the compiler itself never had the "associate
the error message with the line in the original source" problem that
you described. The compiler could keep an internal table mapping the
lexical output of the preprocessor to the source lines/files that
went
into the preprocessor phase. Most (all?) of DEC's and IBM's compilers
operate this way.
In keeping with UNIX's philosophy of "one image/one purpose", C's
preprocessor functionality was in a separate image from the compiler
itself. There are many advantages to this design, including that cpp
can then be used for other languages than C. But is has the
disadvantage of introducing the source correlation problem that
required the introduction of #line.
-Paul W.