9 Mar
2024
9 Mar
'24
5:45 a.m.
On Friday, March 8th, 2024 at 3:18 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey
<grog(a)lemis.com> wrote:
On Thursday, 7 March 2024 at 19:42:59 -0800, Larry
McVoy wrote:
It's been a few years since I installed a Linux distro, but FreeBSD's
installation process feels much more succinct, and agreed installation isn't
something you'd be doing all the time. In a production environment, I'd rather
have the thing scripted anyway, copy VMs, what have you.
There's also something to be said for "if it ain't broke, don't fix
it". Different strokes for different folks, if you're coming to UNIX from a
Windows world, the graphical install processes of many Linux distros are probably right up
your alley, but if you're a minimalist, it can feel like a bit much. I'd be
much more concerned if I'm installing systems so often by hand that the quality of
the installer is the make or break....
- Matt G.
On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 08:15:43PM -0500, Jeffry
R. Abramson wrote:
OK, I'm asking. I've been there too, and I don't see any obvious and
serious deficiencies.
On Thu, 2024-03-07 at 13:08 +0000, Ben Kallus
wrote:
FreeBSD and me got reconnected when Netflix wanted to hire me a
while back. While the kernel may be OK (it's not, ask me how I
know, I walked the code) FreeBSD is stuck in the 1980s. Raise your hand if
you have
installed FreeBSD in the last 20 years.
/me raises.
That "UI" for partitioning the disks,
so arcane. The whole install
experience is awful.
Agreed, some of the installation tools could do with improvement. But
how often do you install FreeBSD? As I have already noted, I've been
using it for 25 years or so, and in the early days I held classes on
installing FreeBSD. By about 2000 they seemed a little pointless. In
general, once it's there, it's there. You seem to be emphasizing the
wrong part of the system.
SunOS was a bug fixed BSD, so I really loved BSD.
But BSD is so
dead it is not even funny. Linux is light years ahead. Here is an
example from more than 20 years ago. I was installing RedHat Linux
and the machine I was installing on didn't have a mouse. The
installer was graphical and it was just easier to tab through the
options than go find a mouse.
Again, installation. How about using the system? And why should
you need a mouse to install software?
Greg
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