A rescue yesterday yielded several 9-tracks claiming to be Usenix
collections from the late 70's and early 80's. Are there any Usenix
collections online that might be interested in copies? If not, would
this material be appropriate for the PUPS archive, possibly in a trimmed
or edited form?
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In article by Tim Shoppa:
A rescue yesterday yielded several 9-tracks claiming
to be Usenix
collections from the late 70's and early 80's. Are there any Usenix
collections online that might be interested in copies? If not, would
this material be appropriate for the PUPS archive, possibly in a trimmed
or edited form?
Hi Tim, yes I think those tapes would be excellent material for the
PUPS Archive. We already have some Usenix tapes in the archive:
2616 Applications/Usenix_77/ug091377-ar.tar.gz
10208 Applications/Spencer_Tapes/del.tar.gz
2688 Applications/Spencer_Tapes/tor79.tar.gz
but of course more would be welcome. I'd be happy to take them untrimmed :-)
Thanks!
Warren
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When sorting through old things in the machine room here recently,
Job Bogan came across an early QIC tape of SunOS. The label reads:
Sun UNIX 4.2* Software Release 0.4
(*Berkeley Beta Release)
1/4" Boot Tape 1 of 2 700-0585-01
copyright (c) 1983 Sun Microsystems
Unfortunately, when I attempted to read the tape, all I got was a
tar file of a Fortran program dating from 1989. It didn't get very
far into the tape, though, so parts of the original software may
still be present -- but I don't know how to get past the end-of-tape
mark to get at them. Any ideas?
By the way, the Sun 1 that this tape goes with still exists, elsewhere
on campus, but hasn't been in usable condition in years.
eric
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When sorting through old things in the machine room
here recently,
Job Bogan came across an early QIC tape of SunOS. The label reads:
Sun UNIX 4.2* Software Release 0.4
(*Berkeley Beta Release)
1/4" Boot Tape 1 of 2 700-0585-01
copyright (c) 1983 Sun Microsystems
Unfortunately, when I attempted to read the tape, all I got was a
tar file of a Fortran program dating from 1989.
So presumably someone decided to re-use this tape - and we hope they
didn't reformat the tape first.
It didn't get very
far into the tape, though, so parts of the original software may
still be present -- but I don't know how to get past the end-of-tape
mark to get at them. Any ideas?
QIC tape formats have physical sectors that the controller (in your
case, most likely the SCSI controller that interfaces the drive to
your SCSI bus) presents to the rest of the system as a series of
logical tape records and tape marks. You can't get past the logical
end-of-tape because the SCSI controller (not host adapter!) "knows"
there's nothing past the logical end-of-tape. If you bypass this
by going straight to the physical sectors, you can read the data
following logical end-of-tape, assuming that the cartridge was
never reformatted. Most SCSI QIC tape controllers will let you
get at the physical sectors, but this is rarely supported by the OS
and isn't always consistent from model to model and manufacturer
to manufacturer.
QIC tape standards are pretty well documented at
http://www.qic.org/.
For details on how your SCSI QIC drive can be forced to access
physical sectors, it's best to go straight to the drive manufacturer's
technical manuals.
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Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com
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