18 Jul
2025
18 Jul
'25
6:40 a.m.
On Thursday, July 17th, 2025 at 10:44 PM, Rob Pike <robpike(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Sam had it, acme took it (and much else) from Sam.
-rob
On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 3:22 PM Noel Hunt <noel.hunt(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > But that is far less useful than having two windows into the same
> > file where the mods to each window go to the same file. Think
> > looking at code that has the structs at the top of the file and you
> > need to wack a struck and wack the code that uses that struct.
> > Quite pleasant.
>
>
> You will find that this is exactly what 'Zerox' in acme does.
Sam is indeed nice but I have not quite gotten to the point of using it daily. For my
hobby projects I rarely launch an X session, opting to simply work from the framebuffer
console instead. I don't have a graphical editor of choice these days though so Sam
is certainly on the docket whenever I start using a windowing environment heavily outside
of web browsing again. End of the day though I like being able to do the bulk of what I
do sitting at any given computer from the console. I have a VT100 that I've finally
restored to perfect health I plan on setting up in my bedroom as a true terminal (routed
through my Dataphone modems down to my office machine).
To hopefully inspire some interesting discussion, was Sam ever formally supported by
AT&T as an editor in System V, either OpenLook or X environments? Or did it never
escape Plan 9 as far as AT&T's commercial UNIX offerings go? In a more general
sense I find the later genetic flow from BTL et. al. to USL intriguing since the Labs were
already onto things so far ahead of what System V was in the commercial scene.
- Matt G.