[TUHS] Re: "Imake: an obsolete build tool" -- anybody got this?

On 3/18/25 09:03, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: Yes, we still maintain Imake upstream at X.Org, but every new release for years has had notes like: The X Window System used imake extensively up through the X11R6.9 release, for both full builds within the source tree and external software. X moved off of imake for its build system in 2005 for X11R7.0 and later releases, but still provides imake for building existing external software programs that have not yet converted, though we are not actively maintaining it for new OS or platform releases. Anyone shipping software still using imake to build should be working on moving to something that is still adding support for new platforms and runtimes. as seen in https://lists.freedesktop.org/pipermail/xorg/2024-January/061524.html We don't even use Imake to build itself - since 2005 it has been built with autoconf & automake, and this year I merged the changes to let it build with meson instead: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/util/imake/-/merge_requests/13 But I don't have a copy of the paper referred to in the first email in this thread, and both the sites we link to for Imake information from the Imake README seem to have died now: https://www.snake.net/software/imake-stuff/ https://www.kitebird.com/imake-book/ -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith(a)oracle.com Oracle Solaris Engineering - https://blogs.oracle.com/solaris