1 Jan
2015
1 Jan
'15
10:11 p.m.
On 2015-01-01 17:01, Clem Cole wrote:
below ..
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt(a)update.uu.se
<mailto:bqt@update.uu.se>> wrote:
2.) VT-100's did not implement the full ANSI spec like Ann
Arbor, Heathkit,
Wyse etc. So there are a number of things that those terminals did
better. A really good reason to you curses(3) because all the
knowledge is
keep in the termcap and as a programmer you don't need to worry
about it.
Probably true. However, I'm not sure Ann Arbor or Heathkit did much
better.
They did - but they had the advantage of complete spec, which when then
VT-100 team did their thing, was working with a proposal.
True. Not sure how much changed though. Do you have any list of things
that differs, and things that AA or Heathkit did better?
As far as I can remember, they were always more
"weird"
I guess. Maybe the were not too go at running programs like EDT on
VMS. which used the DEC private sequences. As I recall you grew up on
RSX and VMS so would not have had the same affinity that we in the UNIX
side did.
True that I grew up on DEC OSes, but I never used EDT. Always Emacs.
(Proper Emacs, that is, not the GNU stuff... :-) )
VMS folks tended to stay with something that looked a
lot like VT-100,
whereas UNIX folks often chose more functionality in the terminal.
Possible. But people in general seems to have preferred the VT100 to
most other stuff on Unix as well, judging by history.
Personally, I'd give an AAA or a Heathkit
away if one was dropped on
me. A VT100 I would keep. :-)
To each each his own. I still have an H19 and a Wyse-60. Would love
to find an old AAA, but I personally would not bother with any member of
VT-100 family since most SW emulators are "good enough" for my use when
I might want VT-100 specifics.
Indeed. To each his own. No problem with that.
And yes, most VT-100 emulators suck seriously. I usually identifies the
first problem within 10 seconds, and almost all emulators do some of the
common simple stuff wrong.
xterm is my savior. It actually do things pretty might right all the time.
I heard that some folks in the VMS world gripe
about the emulators
not being good enough, but my use has never been that much and certainly
there are lots of other issues with the newer VT-xxx's that drove me
bonkers.
Let me guess - the missing escape key? :-)
(That one drove almost everyone bonkers...)
Johnny
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