13 Mar
2023
13 Mar
'23
4:27 p.m.
Paul - one more thing. In PDP-10 land, I think they would have called
them 'sessions' but it was a similar idea - although the PC versions since
they also provided the 'terminal emulation' had to do a bit more.
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On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 11:24 AM Clem Cole <clemc(a)ccc.com> wrote:
The virtual consoles using the function keys predate
Linux and 386BSD by a
number of years. I used them only early x86 Unix ports to the IBM PC such
as Xenix.
FWIW I think Minix for the 8088 may have supported them - be
worth checking.
I have no memories off them on the 8 bit systems when concurrency was
added but I did but do much them.
I would not have been surprised that predates the x86 versions of
different systems. I.e. I have vague memories of something using the
function keys on the PDP-10s switching between screens but that was long
ago.
My bet would be to look at ITS, WAITES and Twenex for the origin story.
On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 11:13 AM Paul Ruizendaal via TUHS <tuhs(a)tuhs.org>
wrote:
Thinking a bit more about terminal multiplexing
was a major use case for
early X, I recalled using Linux virtual consoles in the late 90’s for this
purpose.
According to Wikipedia, virtual consoles originated with Xenix and before
that with concurrent CP/M.
Perusing the documentation of those on Bitsavers, I can see that virtual
consoles have a prominent mention in the manual for concurrent CP/M (1983),
but not those of its forerunners MP/M II and MP/M (1979). I cannot find a
mention of virtual consoles in Xenix documentation as late as 1988.
No such thing as a virtual (as distinct from pseudo) tty on 16-bit Unix
or early 32-bit, as far as I know; one could argue it does not make much
sense with physical terminals. Wikipedia says no such thing existed on
SunOS either.
I think virtual consoles where present in Linux from a very early point.
So, as far as I can tell virtual consoles were invented for concurrent
CP/M around 1983, made their way to Xenix in the late 80’s and became part
of Linux in the early 90’s.
Have I missed other prior art?
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