12 Sep
2016
12 Sep
'16
7:38 a.m.
Do any copies of 8th Edition exist anywhere? ;)
That's one way to check!
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On Sep 11, 2016, at 22:24, Warner Losh
<imp(a)bsdimp.com> wrote:
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 10:44 PM, Greg
'groggy' Lehey <grog(a)lemis.com> wrote:
I don't think they are talking about BSD4.1a having these things, but
rather Research Unix Edition 8 having these things. Bell labs didn't
integrate them until later. I recall reading articles at the time (1983
or 1984) that they had their own notion of what networking to use
that wasn't TCP/IP due to some perceived failings of TCP/IP that
they fixed with their stuff. I recall that I read it in the library in
high school. Wish I'd forgotten that and recalled what the network
protocol was they implemented instead...
Warner On Sunday, 11 September 2016 at 21:31:10 -0400,
Norman Wilson wrote:
-- Adopt 4.1c BSD kernel
...
I don't think the BSD kernel when adopted had much, if any,
of sockets, Berkeley's TCP/IP, McKusick's FFS; if it did,
they were excised.
...
TCP/IP support didn't show up until later, I think summer 1985,
though it might have been a year later.
I'm confused. 4.1c has gone down in history as the first version with
Internet code, and looking at the sources (from mckusick's CD set), I
see the network files in /sys/netinet with names very reminiscent of
current FreeBSD file names. The files have timestamps between
November 1982 and May 1983. Why should they have been removed? I
would have thought that exactly this functionality would have been the
reason why you adopted 4.1c.
Similarly, it also included FFS and (not surprisingly sockets.
I checked further back, but unfortunately the previous version on the
CDs is 4.1a, and it has no kernel code.