19 Apr
2019
19 Apr
'19
11:52 p.m.
Replying to two messages here:
On Fri, 19 Apr 2019, Lars Brinkhoff wrote:
Here is a collection, but most of them are from after
that date.
https://github.com/ttkzw/hosts.txt
Thanks. I should have mentioned I looked there. It doesn't have it as
far as I see. It has the same data for the pre-1982 files I already
have (but they are not RFC 608 style).
But it was interesting to see the three MIT/Stanford versions. I think
they have a different format unless I misunderstand. Since I cannot find
SRI-NIC examples (before RFC 810) I don't know for sure.
https://github.com/ttkzw/hosts.txt/blob/master/pub/hosts/19830119/HOSTS.TXT
If you can point me to PDP-10 ITS routines, I'd appreciate it.
On Fri, 19 Apr 2019, Clem Cole wrote:
1) I am looking for parsers for ancient (pre mid
1982)
...
Got to Warren's archives for BSD 4.2 and look for
the htable(8) and
gettable(8).? I believe the parsing routines will be in htable(8).
Thanks. I have them already (including 4.1c.2). They are the newer
format. I had looked at htable before. I just looked at my sccs for it:
MRs:
COMMENTS:
date and time created 82/10/20 21:26:49 by sam
4.1 #ifndef lint
4.1 static char sccsid[] = "(a)(#)htable.c 4.1 (Berkeley) 10/20/82";
4.1 #endif
4.1
4.1 /*
4.1 * htable - convert NIC host table into a UNIX format.
4.1 * NIC format is described in RFC 810, 1 March 1982.
4.1 */
I was hoping there was an early revision for previous format there, but
that is the first revision I see in SCCS.
Thank you for reminding me and thanks for pointing me to gettable. I see
that is a TCP client implementation of the RFC 811 NIC Internet
Hostnames Server. Awesome. I will be writing about it.
Just noticed the long-obsolete manpage has an error; it says:
Gettable is a simple program used to obtain the NIC standard host tables
from a ``nicname'' server.
...
Gettable operates by opening a TCP connection to the port indicated in
the service specification for ``nicname''.
It is not a "nicname" client. It is a RFC 811 "hostnames" client.
The first code before 4.2BSD has:
sp = getservbyname("nicname", "tcp");
The later code has:
sp = getservbyname("hostnames", "tcp");
4.1c.2 /etc/services had:
nicname 101/tcp hostname # usually from sri-nic
4.2BSD /etc/services had:
whois 43/tcp nicname
hostnames 101/tcp hostname # usually from sri-nic
nicname is RFC 812.
but the manpage never got fixed (well I didn't look after FreeBSD 1.0
which is the newest version of gettable I have).
I was hoping that gettable(8) had HNAME/HADDR query commands then I
think it would be a very early network name lookup tool. But it just
had the ALL support to return entire host table.
Still looking for the pre RFC 810 tables from SRI-NIC ...