Re: [TUHS] My EuroBSDcon talk (preview for commentary)

slide 4 -- All of HP-UX, Ultrix and Digital UNIX/Tru64 are BSD kernels. HP-UP and Tru64 support System V calls. BTW: DG-UX and Stratus built their own kernels, but used System V command systems and System Call definitions - which are not listed. Slide 6 - if you want it I have another picture of the GE system from some of their literature has a view of all of the components. Send me email if you want it. Slide 8 - Sets out to write version of Fortran came up with B. Uses B to write Assembler Slide 9 - Wrong DEC logo. Should be the Blue one. The maroon version does not show up until the 1990s with Bob Palmer (and has bad memories for some of us). Slide 17 - Ken write PDP-11 assembler on PDP-7 in B. , Dennis starts to rewrite B compiler to output PDP-11 code. Slide 18 - B begins to become different enough that Dennis starts to call it nb [new B], eventually deviates enough to become new language Slide 19 - 4th Edition release outside of the BTL. Lou Katz becomes 'user zero' Slide 20 -- We need to get you the site and group name from Mash. It was not in Summit, it was not USG - but was in NJ. I thought it was Homdel but I that is purely speculation. Also the role of Columbus team needs to be defined. Ask Mary Ann. Slide 21 -- I'm not going to argue - but I would ask you to add a disclaimer. This is what you could reconstruct, but there is some question of some of the arrows. Heinz might be able to help, but as Stienhart and I have said, its believed to be in LA; but no one has tracked him down as he has been pursuing non-computer interests. Slide 22 --4th Edition went to Katz that this is wrong, who sometimes reads this mailing list. If not, send me a note, I'll reintroduce you. He might be able to give you a data. Check with Warren, my >>memory<< is that some of userland is still in C although a lot assembler is still there. Slide 23 -- ??widespread?? -- I'm not sure I would use that. Not even 100 sites yet. Also there were not "commercial version" this was the first "commercial license" -- big difference [contact me if you want explanation]. IIRC fee was 15K per CPU. Commercial redistribution doesn't occur until after 7th is released and was a separate license. I would add, Mike Lesk's portable C library is starting to be used, but most C program do their own I/O with read/write First real install man page and Dennis build tape installation system. Earlier version released as RK05 disk copies. Also numerous new peripherals. IIRC Support for the 11/40 starts here, 4th & 5th needed a 45 class, and earlier used the 20 with the CSS MMU. Slide 24 -- CMU uses it to teaches OS class. makes student in class sign a sub-license. Slide 25 - missing the first USENIX tapes. which include Harvard and the like. Warren and I can probably help a little here. Slide 26 - new licenses. Commercial license fees change to 20K for 1st CPU/5K for each CPU afterward. CMU buys first commercial license to use UNIX to make money [after Cole and Klein go on strike]. Case Western follows suit 6month later. AT&T agrees for the Universities that they only had to declare one CPU as commercial and could intermix otherwise and notifies all the universities that if they were using it for commercial purposes, then needed a license. AT&T creates first redistribution license. Needed at least one $20K commercial CPU and then $150k for the rights to redistribute. Originally $1K per binary CPU. Slide 27 -- missing Purdue Dual Vax and CMU Mach Slide 28 - APS had NH which was the model the DEC plate you show. Maddog has it now on his Jeep when aps moved to CA (he also has the NH Linux plate but I don't remember the car -- you can ask him). I have had the Massachusetts UNIX plate since 1983 (it's on my model S of course). ghg has indiana from around the same time (I think on a pickup). wnj had the CA vmunix on his Ferrari, but I don't know if he still has it or what its on. Slide 29 - Look in HenrySpencer-TUHS.org -- you'll find tail but not head. Slide 31 - Job Control can from Europe via MIT. Jim Kulp wrote it. Noel and I can give you the story if you want it. It was on the PDP-11 there. Joy modified csh and added it to 4.1 Slide 32 -- JC was not from UCB. Joy got it from MIT -- Dennis create ENV and it was first distributed in V7. Slide 33 -- No Bourne supported ENV in the new shell -- see me earlier email for how all this went down or ask Steve yourself. Slide 34 -- PCC was included, but the Ritchie Compiler (a.k.a. Typesetter C) was the default compiler. You are missing a step BTW -- typesetter C was released between V6 and V7. As is the first draft of the White Book. The new compiler had stdio but targets V6. Also mpx was part of DataKit support. Slide 35 -- Not sure that is true. I thought Microsoft's Xenix ships before Venix. Particularly since you made the comment about System III The original 8086 Xenix was a pure V7 port, with a few additions Gordon brought with him from Purdue (i.e. ghg hacks). Slide 52/53/54/55 -- wrong logo (see above) On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 11:21 PM Warner Losh &lt;imp(a)bsdimp.com&gt; wrote: