I'm reading in, Kernighan & Plauger's 1981 edition of Software Tools in
Pascal and in the book, the author's mention Bill Joy's Pascal and Andy
Tanenbaum's as being rock solid. So, a few related questions:
1. What edition of UNIX were they likely to be using?
2. What versions of "Standard Pascal" were in vogue on UNIX at the time
(1981)?
3. What combinations of UNIX/Pascal were popular?
Thanks,
Will
All,
I did my research on this, but it's still a bit fuzzy (why is it that
people's memories from 40 years ago are so malleable?).
1. What are y'all's recollections regarding BSD 4.1's releases, vis a
vis the VAX. In McKusick's piece, Twenty Years of Berkeley Unix, I get
one perspective, and from Sokolov's Quasijarus project, I get quite
another. In terms of popularity and in terms of stable performance, what
say you? Was 4.1 that much better than 4BSD? Was 4.1as obsolete
immediately as McKusick says? 4.1b sounds good with FFS, was it? 4.1c's
the last pre 4.2 release, but it sounds like it was nearly a beta
version of 4.2...
2. Sokolov implies that the CSRG mission started going off the rails
with the 4.3/4.3BSD-Tahoe and it all went pear shaped with the 4.3-Reno
release, and that Quasijarus puts the mission back on track, is that so?
3. I've gotten BSD 4.2 and BSD 4.3 releases built from tape and working
very well. I just can't decide whether to go back to one of the 4.x
releases (hence question 1), or go get Quasijarus0c - thoughts on why
one might be more interesting than another?
4. Is Quasijarus0c end of the line for VAX 4.xBSD? Why does tuhs only
have Quasijarus0 and 0a, was there something wrong with 0b and 0c?
5. Has anyone unearthed an original 4.1 tape, or is Haertel's
reconstruction of the 1981 tape 1 release as close as it gets?
Later,
Will
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Thanks,
Justin
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the discussion of why the CSRG disbanded in 1995 has come up elsewhere.
My memory is that the reason was pretty simple: DARPA ended their
funding at that time.
Hoping for corrections to my memory :-)
> From: Clem Cole
> So by the late 70s/early 80s, [except for MIT where LISP/Scheme reigned]
Not quite. The picture is complicated, because outside the EECS department,
they all did their own thing - e.g. in the mid-70's I took a programming
intro couse in the Civil Engineering department which used Fortran. But in
EECS, in the mid-70's, their intro programming course used assembler
(PDP-11), Algol, and LISP - very roughly, a third of the time in each. Later
on, I think it used CLU (hey, that was MIT-grown :-). I think Scheme was used
later. In both of these cases, I have no idea if it was _only_ CLU/Scheme, or
if they did part of it in other languages.
Noel
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Has anyone seen Fraser's original ratfor source for the s editor for unix on the PDP-11. It was a screen editor front-end built on top of Software Tools's edit. I've seen a c version, but I'm interested in the 375 line version :).
Will
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