Hi,
On 02/22/2002 07:31:49 PM PST "Steven M. Schultz" wrote:
>
>> From: Christian Groessler <cpg(a)aladdin.de>
>> I'm running above image with the p11 emulator, and the root partition
>> is almost full.
>>
>> # df
>> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
>> root 7816 7030 786 10% /
>>
>> but looking at files, I only see 2MB+ in use:
>>
>> # du -s /
>> 2702
>
> I see Greg mentioned running fsck. That sounds like an excellent
> suggestion.
Yes, but it didn't help :-(
What can this be?
I tried something else, I copied the contents of the root fs
elsewhere, newfs'd the root partition and copied the contents back.
But now booting stops when it normally starts init,
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: unix
Boot: bootdev=05010 bootcsr=0176700
2.11 BSD UNIX #1: Fri Feb 15 18:47:18 PST 2002
chris@pdp11:/usr/src/sys/PDP11CPG
attaching qe0 csr 174440
qe0: DEC DEQNA addr 08:00:2b:07:82:6c
attaching lo0
phys mem = 2097152
avail mem = 1647872
user mem = 307200
-------------
... and here it hangs. Do I have to consider something else when I
newfs the root partition?
regards,
chris
I post this message with hope that someone out there can help me with a
problem I have at hand.
My company recently bought a preowned printing machine, which uses a
PDP11/73 BA23
connected to a VT240 terminal to control the functions of the machine.
Needless to say that we are unable to make the PDP run since we have no
knowledge of the machine and have no one to look upto for guidance..
While we are able to power on the PDP, the VT240 is dead.
Looking for help I came across your site and got the feeling that you
might be able to help me out of my current deliema.
While I have the original program disks, I have NO operating disks or
knowledge of what OS is on the PDP. The printing machine is controlled
by the PDP thru 4 serial ports (TT0 thru
TT3), the machine has a total of 8 ports, 4 are left unused.
PLEASE HELP.
Regards,
Shroff
repro(a)nutechgroup.net
Hi!
> From: Christian Groessler <cpg(a)aladdin.de>
> I'm running above image with the p11 emulator, and the root partition
> is almost full.
>
> # df
> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
> root 7816 7030 786 10% /
>
> but looking at files, I only see 2MB+ in use:
>
> # du -s /
> 2702
> This persists over reboots, so it doesn't seem to be a large deleted
> file which is still in use.
It might be a corrupt freelist. If that is the case then running
fsck will detect that fact and reclaim the space by rebuilding the
freelist.
> Where is the missing space?
My guess is it's "missing" - that can happen if the system's shutdown
(or the emulator terminated) prematurely. In that case the freelist
metadata might not have been updated.
I see Greg mentioned running fsck. That sounds like an excellent
suggestion.
Cheers,
Steven Schultz
sms(a)2bsd.com
Hi,
I'm running above image with the p11 emulator, and the root partition
is almost full.
I tried to clean it up, but I cannot find where the space is used.
df says:
--------
# df
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
root 7816 7030 786 10% /
--------
but looking at files, I only see 2MB+ in use:
--------
# du -s /
2702
--------
This persists over reboots, so it doesn't seem to be a large deleted
file which is still in use.
Where is the missing space?
regards,
chris
> Warren, maybe you know a PUPS volunteer in the USA that has appropriate
> equipment and experience to do this job? This would also reduce shipping
> efforts and cost for Mr. McKusick. (And risk of damage of the tapes, as
> it would avoid shipping across the "big pond".)
I've just sent some mail to Tim Shoppa, asking if he would be willing
to read the tapes for us.
Cheers,
Warren
Hi,
I've been lurking here for a week or two, reading the
archives on porting v7 to x86, etc.
On a lark, I downloaded the v7 sources and started to
"upgrade" them so the userland can build and run on top
of modern OS kernels such as Linux. The bulk of libc
is the same (warts and all), with the "sys" layer replaced
with modern syscalls.
Perhaps it is a bit "sacrilegious", but I believe it makes
the code more accessible for experimentation, and it
should solve the "how do we get a PDP-11 compiler"
problem: we use the original hosted on top of a modern
kernel as a cross-compiler.
Check it out and let me know what you think. Most of
the libraries have been upgraded, with a handful of the
simpler command-line utilities.
http://www.southern-storm.com.au/v7upgrade.html
Cheers,
Rhys.
I've started porting some of the old UNIX programs to Mac OS X. I've
got about 1/2 the games, that should be ok, but I also have other things
like crypt and makekey. I'd like to make these available in binary
form, but I don't want the men in black knocking at my door either...
Any thoughts?
On a side note, I simply can not believe how easy it is to compile this
old code under Mac OS X. for some of it, it's proving easier than
porting Linux code ( if you've only known how long I worked on linux's
fortune, and the old one just compiled no fuss, no problems ).
Also, if your wandering why ... that's easy, because I can.
Thanks.
- Derrik
firebug(a)apk.net
http://junior.apk.net/~firebug
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The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected.
-- The Unix Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972
Hello,
I ám still have a working Dec pdp11-23. It runs on CTS-300 with 10 Mb Harddisk and a Tape drive for back-ups
I think the programm is writen in dibol.
I f you want more information about this system please reply by email
If anyone can help me with the following questions.
Can i connect an windows/dos sytem to the pdp11-23 and run the program.
Is it possible to copy the program and run it on a Windows/Dos based machine.
Hope to hear from sombody,
Pieter Visser
The Netherlands
e-mail p.visser(a)tip.nl
handy +31-(0)6-53630275
phone +31-(0)165-313597
work +31-(0)76-5022800
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On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 10:24:30AM +0000, P.A.Osborne wrote:
> The reason I want the compiler is that it will generate standalone 16
> bit code on a sensible platform. GCC doesnt produce 16 bit code as
> far as I am aware - so personally I thought it would be amusing (I
> must be mad) to use tools that run under DOS (well OS/2).
support for PDP-11 was added to gcc a few months ago. I don't think
it's been well tested, but support exists in current versions of
binutils and gcc.
http://pdp11.nocrew.org/
there's also support for the m68hc11/12 which are 16-bit.
it seems like support for 80{,1,2}86 in gcc should be possible; it just
hasn't been done yet.
another compiler that might be worth looking at is SDCC
http://sdcc.sourceforge.net/ which is currently targeted towards 8-bit
MCUs.
of course bootstrapping via the original K&R compiler would be the
"classic" way to do it, though. ;)
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