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by Christopher McNabb

Does anyone know if there is a command like 'top' for 2.11 BSD? -- Christopher L McNabb Tel: 540 231 7554 Operating Systems Analyst Email: cmcnabb(a)vt.edu Virginia Tech ICBM: 37.205622N 80.414595W GMRS: WPSR255 ARS: N2UX Grid Sq: EM97SD

22 years, 5 months

Re: [pups] 2.11 on an 11/44

by norman＠nose.cs.utoronto.ca

It seems to me it's time to go back to basics: Tell us what happens if you do ls -l /dev/rl2a and, if that file exists (as seems likely), od /dev/rl2a Diagnosing a problem of this sort solely by the mutterings of the mount command is a bit like trying to decide what is causing your back pain and therefore how to treat it by the tone of your voice when you say `ouch.' (Hmm, perhaps I have just invented a lucrative new paramedical discipline, on a par with chiropractic and cold-laser therapy and homeopathy and software consulting.) Norman Wilson Toronto ON

22 years, 5 months

Re: Fw: A milestone from Australian computing history

by wtoomey＠staff.bond.edu.au

In article by Max Burnet: > From: Bob Supnik <bsupnik(a)earthlink.net> > To: Max Burnet <mburnet(a)bigpond.net.au> > > I've just finished resurrecting Richard Miller's Wollongong port of UNIX > V6 > > to the Interdata 7/32 (1976-77) - the first UNIX port in history. I hope > > to release a kit over the weekend. > > > > If you have Warren Toomey's mail address, over at PUPS, will you please > > forward this on to him as well? > > > > All the best to you and yours, > > > > /Bob Congratulations Bob!! Warren

22 years, 5 months

[pups] 2.11 on an 11/44

by Bill Gunshannon

I am trying to put 2.11 on one of my 11/44's. I picked up the RL02/RK images from the archive. I put the RL02 images on real RL02's (Yes, some of us still have and use them!! :-) My intent was to boot this and then use it to build a system on a bigger disk and then go on from there. Here's my configuration: 11/44 CPU CIS EIS FP11 4M memory (actually 3840KB) MMU 3 RL02 disks A CDU/720-TM SCSI Controller with 4 MAXTOR 340M disks and a QIC tape Now the problem. The system boots fine. And it will mount /dev/rl1a. But it won't mount /dev/rl2a. I get "/dev/rl2a on /vol2: No such device or address". I get the same error when I try to do a disklabel. What's more, I also get this same error when I try to access any of the RA devices. I am using the GENERIC Kernel which I assume has all the devices in it. Anybody have any suggestions?? Of course, if I find that the SCSI Controller isn't going to work I have another controller and a FUJI Eagle I could use too. But I am certain I will need to get all three RL's working in order to have enough of a system to do this. Thanks in advance, bill -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves bill(a)cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton | Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>

22 years, 5 months

Re: [pups] 2.11 on an 11/44

by Steven M. Schultz

Hi - > From: Bill Gunshannon <bill(a)cs.scranton.edu> > > I am trying to put 2.11 on one of my 11/44's. I picked up the RL02/RK > images from the archive. I put the RL02 images on real RL02's (Yes, > some of us still have and use them!! :-) My intent was to boot this RL drives were reliable (compared to RA81 and RK06/7 drives) if not exactly spacious ;) > 3 RL02 disks > A CDU/720-TM SCSI Controller with 4 MAXTOR 340M disks and a QIC tape > > Now the problem. > The system boots fine. And it will mount /dev/rl1a. But it won't mount > /dev/rl2a. I get "/dev/rl2a on /vol2: No such device or address". What rev of the kernel do you have? First line in /VERSION should have the magic number. > I get the same error when I try to do a disklabel. What's more, I also > get this same error when I try to access any of the RA devices. I am > using the GENERIC Kernel which I assume has all the devices in it. > > Anybody have any suggestions?? What I think is happening is that the system is only configured for 2 RL drives - the change from 2 to 4 happened quite late (patch #439 I think). The RA problem sounds like the MSCP driver either isn't in the kernel or wasn't probed/attached at boot time. You can see if MSCP support's present with something like 'nm -g /unix | grep _raintr" and seeing if you "040364 T _raintr" for the interrupt handler. If you do get that then check /etc/dtab for a line like: ra ? 172150 0 5 raintr # uda50, rqdx1/2/3 The '0' for the vector says for the probe/attach logic to assign a vector and tell the controller what value was used. You could put anything in there (154 or 150 I think is the assigned value for the first MSCP controller). If none of that works then I'm stumped as to why the RA drives can't be accessed. Good Luck. Steven Schultz

22 years, 5 months

[pups] CDROM drives and PDP-11s

by Gregg C Levine

Hello from Gregg C Levine Here's the problem. I have several CDs containing programs, and such like from Tim Shoppa. Two of them say they contain portions which are readable only by a CDROM Drive attached to a PDP-11. One of them is split in half. Half is readable on either of the two computers here, the other half, is in a format that's native to the PDP-11. The other is all in that proprietary format. So, has anyone managed to get them read to their machines? Or failing that to the appropriate simulators, or even emulators? Any suggestions? ------------------- Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon(a)worldnet.att.net ------------------------------------------------------------ "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi ) (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda )

22 years, 5 months

RE: [pups] 2.11 on an 11/44

by Fred N. van Kempen

Bill, kernel probably only supports one unit, _OR_ the filesystem doesnt have all device nodes (/dev/rlXXX). --f > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Gunshannon [mailto:bill@cs.scranton.edu] > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:08 PM > To: pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org > Subject: [pups] 2.11 on an 11/44 > > > > I am trying to put 2.11 on one of my 11/44's. I picked up the RL02/RK > images from the archive. I put the RL02 images on real RL02's (Yes, > some of us still have and use them!! :-) My intent was to boot this > and then use it to build a system on a bigger disk and then go on from > there. > > Here's my configuration: > > 11/44 CPU > CIS > EIS > FP11 > 4M memory (actually 3840KB) > MMU > > 3 RL02 disks > A CDU/720-TM SCSI Controller with 4 MAXTOR 340M disks and a QIC tape > > Now the problem. > The system boots fine. And it will mount /dev/rl1a. But it > won't mount > /dev/rl2a. I get "/dev/rl2a on /vol2: No such device or address". > I get the same error when I try to do a disklabel. What's > more, I also > get this same error when I try to access any of the RA devices. I am > using the GENERIC Kernel which I assume has all the devices in it. > > Anybody have any suggestions?? > > Of course, if I find that the SCSI Controller isn't going to work > I have another controller and a FUJI Eagle I could use too. But I > am certain I will need to get all three RL's working in order to > have enough of a system to do this. > > Thanks in advance, > > bill > > -- > Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. > Three wolves > bill(a)cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. > University of Scranton | > Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h> > > _______________________________________________ > PUPS mailing list > PUPS(a)minnie.tuhs.org > http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/pups >

22 years, 5 months

Status of, and licensing of the so called "Ancient UNIX" products

by Gregg C Levine

Hello again from Gregg C Levine I know I asked this question early on, and I remember, and have the original answer filed someplace.... But that was about a year ago. Since then I had heard a rumor that the current Copyright Owner of the "Ancient UNIX" products had in fact re-released the products under the exact same license that both Minix, and BSD use. In fact they could called a freely releasable product. Can someone on this list confirm this? On a different list, for a different emulator, to which that I belong, we there, are having a discussion regarding the status of these products. I agreed with a correspondent that the BSD ones, such as 2.11, and 2.9 were in fact freely available, pending a response that is. I am suggesting there, that someone should investigate porting either V5, or V6, or even V7 to that platform. And someone naturally is making that complaint. Someone else is also claiming that Amdahl did just that, and sold it under the name UTS. But as you might guess, it is not freely available. ------------------- Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon(a)worldnet.att.net ------------------------------------------------------------ "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi ) (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda )

22 years, 5 months

Festoon

by Dennis Ritchie

I have the version of festoon, as enhanced by Nils-Peter Nelson, and as Norman Wilson said, mainly and originally done by Ron Hardin. When the Usenet interchange referred to happened, I asked Ron whether he wanted to release it, and the response was > fine with me > npn's version is at /home/rhh/coma/festoon/fest.c > with pics and tbls > i've lost the original Incidentally, Hardin worked for Bell Labs, though at the Columbus location also occupied by Western Electric, and until fairly recently was a consultant for our own and nearby groups. The first Google pages for "hardin sloane" yields a bunch of references to his joint work with the well-known mathematician N. J. A. Sloane. Binary, but not source, was with research 8th edition, and may have escaped otherwise. I'll make the source available to scholars if there's interest. It even compiles on Plan 9 (with ape). Dennis

22 years, 5 months

AT&T Package Design (fwd)

by Warren Toomey

----- Forwarded message from Lange, David ----- From: "Lange, David" <Extern.David.Lange(a)gedas.com> Subject: AT&T Package Design Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 10:25:18 -0500 Just wondering who actually designed the AT&T UNIX package utility. I have to admit the documentation of this utility is rather sparse in term of examples of scripting problems and handling the I/O. Did internal AT&T documentation have any more information or did it merely consist of the source? I'm interested in creating patches and dependencies between packages. Any information or insight would be welcome. Regards. D. Lange ----- End of forwarded message from Lange, David -----

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