Hi all, best wishes for 2011. I had an e-mail from Sven Mascheck asking about
the history of #! interpretation in System V. I couldn't find any #!
code in the kernels before SysVR4. However, I thought I'd pass the
query onto the TUHS list, in case others can shed some light on the question.
Did SysV systems before r4 do #! interpretation, and if so where was it done:
kernel, library, shell? Any code references, e.g. function names etc.?
Many thanks,
Warren
My interest is tweeked, do you still have the source
for the paper on your editor and perhaps the plan9 source?
I never moved across to acme, I am still a sam addict, but
I am always interested in new ideas.
The Only editors I ever used on Edition-VII where vi and le,
and le I only brushed up against.
-Steve
Warren Toomey said:
> I first encountered Unix in 1982 at a summer school held by the University
> of Wollongong in Australia. They had an modeless text editor installed,
> and I have never been able to determine if this was a homegrown editor, or
> an editor which was more widely distributed.
The editor was homegrown in Wollongong in 1981, as a late addition to the
Interdata Unix port. I wrote it in response to an elegant and concise
formal mathematical specification of a "display-oriented text editor"
written by Bernard Sufrin of Oxford University's Programming Research
Group. Bernard's specification was essentially an abstract model of an
existing minimalist (and modeless) screen editor 'ded' developed by his
colleague Richard Bornat at Queen Mary College in London. I've never seen
'ded' itself, but I expect that if you tried both editors you would see a
close family resemblance.
The Wollongong editor was not widely disseminated. I don't think it got
into any official Unix distribution except perhaps for Edition VII - its
austere minimalism could not compete with the dazzling complexity of emacs
or vi. I did license it to Interdata (later aka Perkin-Elmer) for use on
their own OS/32 operating system, where it was called MEDIT. I carried on
for many years using it myself and porting it to various flavours of Unix,
Minix, even MS/DOS, and most recently Plan 9. It was only after giving up
Unix for Plan 9 that I finally switched to using Rob Pike's 'acme', which
is, in its way, even more elegantly minimal.
-- Richard Miller
I thought I'd pop in another question here, given the good response we had
with #!
I first encountered Unix in 1982 at a summer school held by the University
of Wollongong in Australia. They had an modeless text editor installed,
and I have never been able to determine if this was a homegrown editor, or
an editor which was more widely distributed.
I've attached the first 2 pages of the editor's tutorial; the rest are
temporarily at http://minnie.tuhs.org/Z2/WollongongEdit/
Does anybody recognise this at all?
Many thanks in advance,
Warren
Hello,
Looking for an old version of SQR (Oracle's reporting program) -
3.0.13/.0.15 for >= SunOs5, a.k.a Solaris (>=2.x).
We've got SQR 3.0.13 for SunOS 4, but of course it is not compatible
with our Solaris Oracle client (which isn't sunos4, but sunos 5.8).
According to some records and posts online, there is an 3.0.13 for
Solaris :) just need to find a copy
We've already posted a request in SQRUG (SQR User Group) mailing list
and of course contacted our local Oracle provider (who gave us the
SunOS4 version).
Needles to say, we're in contract with Oracle, once we get a correct
version of the program and according to a successful P.O.C, fully
payed licenses will be purchased.
Check with your ex MITI/Sqribe, Oracle contacts.
Cash prize - $1,000 to finder.
Thanks a lot,
A', D' and friends at the DGUX Project
I asked a while back if anyone had any NetBSD 0.8 or 0.9 archives.. I
thought I'd let the list know that I did manage to find NetBSD 0.9, and
using VMWare I've managed to revive it into something that Qemu can run.
If anyone has VMWare and wants to stroll down memory lane, I've uploaded the
install diskettes here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/bsd42/files/Install%20tapes/NetBSD/0.9/NetB…
And I've setup an archive with Qemu & NetBSD all ready to go here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/bsd42/files/4BSD%20under%20Windows/v0.4/Net…
If anyone wants to use their own qemu for their own platform, I've had to
modify the hw/pc.c and remove the NE2000 definition of 0x300,9 as irq 9 is
in use somewhere else in the emulator and it won't allow any sharing on
Irq9.. (Wasn't IRQ 9 shared anyways with the cascade controller???)
At any rate, I built irc, lynx & bzip2 on there, and they seem to function
just fine.
Again if anyone has any lead on NetBSD 0.8 that'd be great, I'd like to save
these from the digitial dumpster....
For anyone that is even remotely interested, I found a way to 'cheat'
the install process, and I've gotten 386 BSD 0.0 to install under
bochs. Qemu is convinced it can't read the disk for a kernel....
But it does work, well as well as 386BSD 0.0 can work.
http://vpsland.superglobalmegacorp.com/install/386BSD/386bsd-0.0/bochs/
I'll try to clean up what I can later.......
well I think I've flogged this dead horse enough... :)
Basically I've mashed in as much as I could figure out, and got the
majority of a make install (build world?) on this thing to work.. I
still don't know where /usr/bin/install comes from as I couldn't
readily identify the source in NetBSD 0.9 or any of the 386 BSD's...
I'm probably looking in the wrong place or maybe it's just from Net/2?
I didn't spend too long trying to work out stuff like that.
If anyone wants, it's in a Qemu runnable image here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/bsd42/files/4BSD%20under%20Windows/v0.4/Net…
It is just under 50MB, which I guess isn't bad since it's source and binaries..
I've manually copied over a few things from etc, and it seems that
NetBSD 0.8 still identifies itself as 386BSD.. did anyone run 0.8 and
remember? The CVS history on /etc/motd seems to have the 0.8 still
reporting as 386BSD which didn't change until 0.9 ...
