Doug McIlroy:
> Does anyone know why [Computing Systems] folded?
Arnold Skeeve:
ISTR that they simply ran out of content; they weren't getting
enough submissions to keep it going, and journal production isn't
an inexpensive undertaking.
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That's what I remember too, though there may also have been
insufficient interest from the members. The front matter
in the last issue suggests that.
Computing Systems was published from Winter 1988 to Fall 1996.
(More years than I'd have guessed, even looking at the physical
journals on my shelf; it was a quarterly.) It would probably
not have lasted much longer no matter what, as the USENIX
community was likely in the forefront of putting papers online
on the World-Wide Web.
USENIX now makes all their conference papers available online,
free to anyone, except that only those registered for a
conference can read them before the conference actually happens.
That's not a bad substitute for a journal, I suppose.
Norman Wilson
Toronto ON
'skeeve' is my domain name. Robbins is my surname.
Sorry about that; up too late with too many balls
in the air (packing, finishing a tax return, listening
to our provincial election results).
At least I didn't further truncate it to skeev, as
Ken might have done.
UNIX/WORLD started in 1984 and was renamed UnixWorld Magazine: Open
Systems Computing in 1991 and then UnixWorld's Open Computing in 1994
and it folded in 1995.
SunExpert started in 1989 was renamed to Server/Workstatsion Expert in
1999 and it folded in 2001. I always enjoyed Mike OBrien's offbeat
"Ask Mr. Protocol"
> From: Dan Cross <crossd(a)gmail.com>
> There were several, starting I guess in the 80s mostly. The one I remember
> in particular was "Unix Review", but there were a few "journal" type
> magazines that also specialized in Unix-y things (e.g., ";login:" from
> USENIX; still published, I believe), and several associated with particular
> vendors: "SunExpert" was one, if I recall correctly.
>
> Occasionally, Unix and related things showed up in the "mainstream"
> consumer computer press of the time. I can remember in particular an issue
> of "PC Magazine" (I think June of 1993) that ran a lengthy couple of
> articles proving machines from Sun and SGI, in addition to version of Unix
> that ran on PCs (interestingly, Linux was omitted despite really starting
> to capture a lot of the imagination in that space; similarly I don't recall
> any mention of BSD).
>
> Some of these old magazines are definitely blasts from the past.
>
> - Dan C.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Sergey Lapin <slapinid(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi, all!
> >
> > I've read recently published link to byte article and got an idea....
> > Was there a magazine related to UNIX systems in 70s-80s?
> > I had so much fun reading that Byte issue, even ads (especially ads!)
> > It is so fun...
> >
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> ;login: is alive and well.
For a few years Usenix even published a refereed technical
journal, "Computing Systems", quite different in tone from
;login: It had some nice content. Does anyone know why
it folded?
Doug
Dan Cross:
... there were a few "journal" type
magazines that also specialized in Unix-y things (e.g., ";login:" from
USENIX; still published, I believe) ...
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;login: is alive and well. So is USENIX. It's no longer
the UNIX user's group it started as many decades ago; the
focus has broadened to advanced computing and systems
research, though the descendants of UNIX are still prominent
in those areas.
For an old-fashioned programmer/systems hack/systems generalist
like me, it's still quite a worthwhile journal and a worthwhile
organization. They've even been known to have a talk or two
about resurrecting old versions of UNIX.
I'm just off to the federation of medium-sized conferences
and workshops that has grown out of the former USENIX
Annual Technical Conference. I'm looking forward to it.
Norman Wilson
Toronto ON
Hi, all!
I've read recently published link to byte article and got an idea....
Was there a magazine related to UNIX systems in 70s-80s?
I had so much fun reading that Byte issue, even ads (especially ads!)
It is so fun...
Phil Garcia wrote:
I've always wondered about something
else, though: Were the original Unix authors annoyed when they learned that
some irascible young upstart named Richard Stallman was determined to make
a free Unix clone? Was he a gadfly, or just some kook you decided to
ignore? The fathers of Unix have been strangely silent on this topic for
many years. Maybe nobody's ever asked?
Gnu was always taken as a compliment. And of course the Unix clone
was pie in the sky until Linus came along. I wonder about the power
relationship underlying "GNU/Linux", as rms modestly styles it.
There are certain differences in taste between Unix and Gnu, vide
emacs and texinfo. (I grit my teeth every time a man page tells me,
"The full documentation for ___ is maintained as a Texinfo file.")
But all disagreement is swept away before the fact that the old
familiar environment is everywhere, from Cray to Apple, with rms
a very important contributor.
Doug
Does anyone have that running on anything? If so, I'd like a copy of the
lint libraries, probably /usr/lib/ll* or something like that.
It's not well known but I spent a pile of time creating lint libraries for
pure BSD, System V, etc, so you could lint your code against a target and
know if you let some non-standard stuff creep in.
I suppose I could fire up a Sun3 emulator like this and find them:
http://www.abiyo.net/retrocomputing/installingsunos411tosun3emulatedintme08…
If someone has a SunOS 4.1.1 box on the net and can give me a login (non-root)
that would be appreciated.
Thanks,
--lm
