My apologies if some find this as spam, but I suspect this group might
also find this a worth while read.
Full discloser, I have known John since 1983 or 1984 (I do not remember
when we were co-worked at the firm he talks about in
the article [Masscomp]. I have also read of number of his books and liked
them. In my role as President of USENIX, I allowed John to hawk his books
at some of our conferences, but other than buying his books, I have
never given him $s.
http://my-thoughts-exactly.wetmachine.com/the-meme-hustler-hustler-evgeny-m…
Clem
Note: I predated John at Masscomp (and I think he left for Sun before I
left for Stellar).
Many of you know that MSCP
was an early 1980s a start up with a lot of ex-VMS/VAX guys (that
predated Sun and actually did $20M in business the year Sun did it's first
$1M).. Tim, Janet and I shared a card table as our first desk. I think
John and Steve did get hired until we expanded to the 2 bldg in Littleton
and kicked SW out. Everything in the piece WRT to Masscomp I will valid
as true, and like John; when I have run into Tim in the past few years I'm
not sure he recognized me either [although unlike John, I do still exchange
christmas cards with Steve Talbot and just two weeks ago got an email from
Tim about something else].
I completely agree with John's point about about Eric Raymond too BTW. And
John makes a side bar, that "open source" being co-opted from the 60s.
He's stumbled on that right. I have always said the "father" of Open
Source was the late Prof Donald O. Peterson (aka dop) from what he did in
the late 1960s. But that's a story for another time.
I fear a sad part of this slide show is that many of us remember and were
part of it all. Some of us programmed these machines (I admit that I
still have some of these pieces in my basement). I was disappointed they
did not show a "stinger tap." The picture of the Alto shows the first mouse
– the Hawley Labs mechanical mouse (which I miss for its feel). Check out
the picture of the first Cisco router using Intel Multibus (with a Motorola
68k in it) looking so awkward.
http://www.eweek.com/networking/slideshows/ethernet-marks-40-years-linking-…
Larry McVoy said:
On Apr 28, 2013, at 7:00 PM, tuhs-request(a)minnie.tuhs.org wrote:
> We build source management systems and we still drop into assembler for
> some stuff. For example, we want to give ourselves a stack traceback
> when something dies. Another example is inner loops that are performance
> critical, we stare at the assembler.
I don't mind staring at the assembly, I just don't want to hand crank it any longer. :-/
I'll spend quite some time fussing with the compiler and optimization flags to get loops to run at maximum speed before I'll take the assembly in hand to 'make it right.'
For stack traces, I've found the GNU compiler support for stack tracing quite handy and for my company it works quite well.
On the discussion of x86 assembly, I have to agree that it is horrific. I'll take ARM (and I have done context switchers and trap handers in ARM) any time.
David Barto
/my name in your iPhone, it is more likely than you think.
About two queries on the topic.
Yes, L. L. Cherry is Lorinda Lillian Cherry.
Rudd Canaday was in on building the foundation, but not the
ground floor. When the Thompson/Ritchie/Canaday (and independently
Strachey/Stoy) file system came to be built, Rudd had completed
his visiting assignment in Computing Science Research. When he
did get a login, he was rhc, but his UID was not among the
single-digit set.
Doug McIlroy
rudd canaday?
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>> Does anyone have a record or pointer regarding the login names of the
>> early Unix contributors?
> [...]
>> In particular I'm interested in the login names of following people:
>> S. R. Bourne
>> D. Haight
>> S. C. Johnson
>> J. F. Maranzano
>> L. E. McMahon
>> S. I. Feldman
>> J. F. Ossanna
>> M. E. Lesk
>> R. H. Morris
>> D. A. Nowitz
> [...]
>
> Your correspondents have done a good job of reconstructing the
> old list. Alas, I can't remember the only missing entry, Dick
> Haight's login. The above list, however, wants one small
> correction. Robert Morris did not have a middle name, the
> "h" was a figment for filling in forms that wanted a middle
> initial.
> Another important name is
> L. L. Cherry llc
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> Does anyone have a record or pointer regarding the login names of the
> early Unix contributors?
[...]
> In particular I'm interested in the login names of following people:
> S. R. Bourne
> D. Haight
> S. C. Johnson
> J. F. Maranzano
> L. E. McMahon
> S. I. Feldman
> J. F. Ossanna
> M. E. Lesk
> R. H. Morris
> D. A. Nowitz
[...]
Your correspondents have done a good job of reconstructing the
old list. Alas, I can't remember the only missing entry, Dick
Haight's login. The above list, however, wants one small
correction. Robert Morris did not have a middle name, the
"h" was a figment for filling in forms that wanted a middle
initial.
Another important name is
L. L. Cherry llc
I was trying to generate PDFs of some PWB
manual pages but they use V6 macros.
I have found tmac.an6 which generates somthing
readable but stamps each page with:
THIS MANUAL ENTRY NEEDS TO BE CONVERTED - SEE mancvt(1) and man(7)
Anyone know of mancvt, I cannot find it.
-Steve
