All, while I'm reminiscing about Minnie's history, I just noticed that we
have hit 30,000 postings on the combined TUHS/PUPS mailing list.
===
In the spirit of early Unix, does that mean the message number
has wrapped back to low numbers, skipping those occupied by
messages still running, like process IDs?
Norman Wilson
(temporarily thousands of km from)
Toronto ON
On Wed Feb 23 16:33, 1994, I turned on the web service on my machine
"minnie", originally minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au, now minnie.tuhs.org (aka
www.tuhs.org) The web service has been running continuously for thirty
years, except for occasional downtimes and hardware/software upgrades.
I think this makes minnie one of the longest running web services
still in existence :-)
For your enjoyment, I've restored a snapshot of the web site from
around mid-1994. It is visible at https://minnie.tuhs.org/94Web/
Some hyperlinks are broken.
## Web Logs
The web logs show me testing the service locally on Feb 23 1994,
with the first international web fetches on Feb 26:
```
sparcserve.cs.adfa.oz.au [Wed Feb 23 16:33:13 1994] GET / HTTP/1.0
sparcserve.cs.adfa.oz.au [Wed Feb 23 16:33:18 1994] GET /BSD.html HTTP/1.0
sparcserve.cs.adfa.oz.au [Wed Feb 23 16:33:20 1994] GET /Images/demon1.gif HTTP/1.0
...
estcs1.estec.esa.nl [Sat Feb 26 01:48:21 1994] GET /BSD-info/BSD.html HTTP/1.0
estcs1.estec.esa.nl [Sat Feb 26 01:48:30 1994] GET /BSD-info/Images/demon1.gif HTTP/1.0
estcs1.estec.esa.nl [Sat Feb 26 01:49:46 1994] GET /BSD-info/cdrom.html HTTP/1.0
shazam.cs.iastate.edu [Sat Feb 26 06:31:20 1994] GET /BSD-info/BSD.html HTTP/1.0
shazam.cs.iastate.edu [Sat Feb 26 06:31:24 1994] GET /BSD-info/Images/demon1.gif HTTP/1.0
dem0nmac.mgh.harvard.edu [Sat Feb 26 06:32:04 1994] GET /BSD-info/BSD.html HTTP/1.0
dem0nmac.mgh.harvard.edu [Sat Feb 26 06:32:10 1994] GET /BSD-info/Images/demon1.gif HTTP/1.0
```
## Minnie to This Point
Minnie originally started life in May 1991 as an FTP server running KA9Q NOS
on an IBM XT with a 30M RLL disk, see https://minnie.tuhs.org/minannounce.txt
By February 1994 Minnie was running FreeBSD 1.0e on a 386DX25 with 500M
of disk space, 8M of RAM and a 10Base2 network connection. I'd received a copy
of the BSDisc Vol.1 No.1 in December 1993. According to the date on the file
`RELNOTES.FreeBSD` on the CD, FreeBSD 1.0e was released on Oct 28 1993.
## The Web Server
I'd gone to a summer conference in Canberra in mid-February 1994 (see
pg. 29 of https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Documentation/AUUGN/AUUGN-V15.1.pdf
and https://minnie.tuhs.org/94Web/Canberra-AUUG/cauugs94.html, 10am)
and I'd seen the Mosaic web browser in action. With FreeBSD running on
minnie, it seemed like a good idea to set up a web server on her.
NCSA HTTPd server v1.1 had been released at the end of Jan 1994, see
http://1997.webhistory.org/www.lists/www-talk.1994q1/0282.html
It was the obvious choice to be the web server on minnie.
## Minnie from Then to Now
You can read more about minnie's history and her hardware/software
evolution here: https://minnie.tuhs.org/minnie.html
I obtained the "tuhs.org" domain in May 2000 and switched minnie's
domain name from "minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au" to "minnie.tuhs.org".
Cheers!
Warren
P.S. I couldn't wait until Friday to post this :-)
To expand on Branden's observation that translating from one member of the
roff family to another is hard, I note that the final output usually
presents a text in a shape that has been fine-tuned for appearance. In
grammatic terms it might best be presented in transformational terms a la
Chomsky: a basic text with a fairly simple grammar tweaked by
pretty-printing transforms.
Translation involves parsing input into an AST according to one grammar and
unparsing to generate output according to another. Chomsky's work uses
transformational grammars primarily for generation. I'm not aware of any
implementation of the inverse: parsing according to a transformational
grammar. Certainly no practical tools exist for doing so.
Unfortunately, one doesn't consciously write roff according to the model I
have outlined. This means that parsing it is more like parsing a natural
language than a strictly defined programming language. So, the absence of
formal tools is exacerbated. Roff scripts, like everyday English, are
written according to an intuitive--and occasionally ad hoc--grammar that
varies both with authors and with time. And seventy years of hard work has
not yet fully automated the parsing of English.
Doug
Doug McIlroy is still around and contributing…
With same insight & wry sense of humour :)
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<https://www.tuhs.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/tuhs@tuhs.org/message/X5P6FYM…>
> Apologies for posting the above title tonTUHS. It's not the first time that
> I've crossed signals between groff and TUHS, but hey, I've got 10 years on Biden.
>
> Doug
--
Steve Jenkin, IT Systems and Design
0412 786 915 (+61 412 786 915)
PO Box 38, Kippax ACT 2615, AUSTRALIA
mailto:sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au http://members.tip.net.au/~sjenkin
Apologies for posting the above title tonTUHS. It's not the first time that
I've crossed signals between groff and TUHS, but hey, I've got 10 years on
Biden.
Doug
Hello everyone, I'm currently laying the groundwork for a restart of my mandiff project, expanding it to encompass not just the manual-proper, but also the documents leading to the "Documents for UNIX" collections as well. Thus far I'm about halfway done on a ROFF restoration of the earliest surviving draft of Dennis Ritchie's The UNIX Time-Sharing System paper[1], reconstructed from existing, later NROFF text and ROFF conventions from the Third Edition manual[2].
Thus far, the additional documents I've found explicitly referenced in the earlier days are:
User's Reference Manual to B - K. Thompson[3]
C Reference Manual - D. M. Ritchie[4 - see note]
M6 Manual - A. D. Hall[5]
ROFF Manual - J. F. Ossanna[6 - see note]
A Manual for the TMG Compiler-writing Language - M. D. McIlroy[7]
UNIX Assembler Manual - D. M. Ritchie[8 - see note]
NROFF Users' Manual - J. F. Ossanna[9 - see note]
YACC Manual - S. C. Johnson[10 - see note]
Aside from these references, there are two other B papers, one a tutorial[11] by B. W. Kernighan and the other a MH-TSS reference by S. C. Johnson[12]. I don't think I saw either referenced in the manual-proper. The latter then makes further reference to a "Bell Laboratories BCPL" by R. H. Canaday and D. M. Ritchie, although I suspect this is lost, I can't find it.
Anywho, my plan is to take any known ROFF/NROFF sources for the above documents and reconstruct the earliest versions possible and then add them to my revamped repository in the timeframes that they first start showing up as references in the manual to derive a more holistic view of the creation of manuals and guides in the early days. A few matters prompted me to start over:
1. Noticing that there is direct lineage between some of the text in the UnixEditionZero paper and later manual pages like as(I), I want to capture the base text as far back as possible, which in this case would mean ensuring a commit in the chain captures the transfer of the text from the UnixEditionZero paper to as(I) to give a more complete history.
2. Al Kossow has now scanned and preserved a UNIX Program Generic II manual, meaning I no longer have to make as many assumptions about what changed and what didn't in the USG/Research split. Thus far, assumptions about the Program Generic line have been based on the extant MERT manual (which in turn is described as deriving from the Program Generic III manual.)
3. The picture of PWB/2.0 is becoming a bit clearer as time goes on, but is still murky, and that has implications for the changes between the Sixth Edition (where my current mandiff repo[13] ends) and the Seventh Edition. Rather than having to go back and redo a bunch of work, I think the first pass can stand on its own as a source of guidance on redoing this.
4. The cleanliness of the repository history is not to my liking, there are several instances of multiple commits across pages related to some larger, holistic change that would really be easier to study if they were in one. Starting over, I now have a much clearer picture of V1->V6 that I can use to produce a tighter history.
Anywho, to summarize what I'm looking for feedback on, first, are there any major documents I'm omitting from this investigation? Any particular technical memoranda that are crucial to the big picture? Additionally, is anyone aware whether USG Program Generic I (or earlier?) had a formal edition of the Programmer's Manual or if they would've just referred folks to the research manual prior to PG II? With the latter question I'm trying to determine if USG manual history starts with the PG II manual Al Kossow has scanned or if I should be considering a hole in the record where a PG I manual goes.
Thanks for following along, hopefully getting this groundwork in place will ensure the next go at this project is even more fruitful than the last!
- Matt G.
--- References ---
1 - https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/Research/McIlroy_v0/UnixEditionZ…
2 - https://www.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=V3/man
3 - https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/kbman.html
4 - I may have a copy of the earliest version of this I can identify. The earliest version I can find online is dated January 15th, 1974 (https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/cman74.pdf) and contains the text "C is also available on the HIS 6070 computer at Murray Hill and on the IBM System/370 at Holmdel" whereas this particular copy of the paper states "C is also available on the HIS 6070 computer at Murray Hill, using a compiler written by A. Snyder and currently maintained by S. C. Johnson. A compiler for the IBM System/360/370 series is under construction." The manual is TROFF printout and isn't formatted as a memorandum like the link included here. References to the C Reference Manual begin to show up as early as the Second Edition manual, although these imply the C manual is still being written. Does anyone know if the C Reference Manual started in ROFF and then moved to NROFF some time before the earliest copies we're aware of? In any case, I intend to scan this copy, it just hasn't bubbled up in my project list yet.
5 - https://tuhs.pdp-11.org.ru/Documentation/TechReports/Bell_Labs/CSTRs/2.pdf
6 - I have a copy that defers from the one I could find here: https://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~doug/roff71/roff71.pdf It is not in technical memorandum format and also may be missing a few pages (in mine, the tutorial ends with the "Translation" section but the linked document contains a couple more paragraphs on page offset (.po), merge patterns, and an envoi (conclusion). The most striking difference is that the linked paper is Doug's version for TSS, but the paper I've got lists the invocation in the UNIX style (roff +N -M name1 name2 ...) and is likely representative of the UNIX version with Joe Ossanna's work. Doug if you catch this and believe the attribution on this page (https://wiki.tuhs.org/doku.php?id=systems:2nd_edition) should have your by-line or both you and jfo, happy to make the edit. The text of the UNIX version I have does seem to descend from your original paper. By the way, an even earlier version of this paper for runoff is available here (https://manpages.bsd.lv/history/runoff69.low.pdf)
7 - https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/Research/1972_stuff/tmg.pdf
8 - This is first referenced in the Third Edition manual. Some of the text may derive from the second Appendix of the "UnixEditionZero" paper linked above, the manpage certainly has influence from that document. Not sure if any of that implies the manual may have started in ROFF, but in any case, constitutes an early reference.
9 - This reference first appears, verifiably, in the Third Edition. However, the Second Edition manual does list nroff(I) in the TOC, but this page is not actually included in the extant PDF in the archive. In any case, the earliest version of the NROFF Users' Manual I'm aware of is the Second Edition, dated 9/11/74. Is any such First Edition extant on the public record?
10 - The earliest reference to this manual I can find is in the Third Edition. Not sure if there are any earlier specimens than the text in the Sixth Edition sources.
11 - https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/btut.html
12 - https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/bref.html
13 - https://gitlab.com/segaloco/mandiff
Accidentally ran into this today.
I’ve never seen this put together and thought it worth adding to the TUHS archives.
Hadn’t realised that both the authors of “Ball & Brown” (1968) were Aussies and UNSW alumni.
Studying a little accounting, this paper was mentioned as ’the most cited’ paper in the field.
The Big New Idea in 1968 was to use computers to analyse stock market data & show correlations.
I hadn’t known either had come back to Australia (QLD or WA then UNSW/AGSM),
then founded AGSM, with a focus on digital analysis of data.
Ian Johnstone, from CSE, went to AGSM to run their computers.
He recommended DEC + Unix and was backed by Brown, the director.
[ Andy Hume was recruited by Ian J, before leaving for a job at Bell Labs in the Computing Research Centre. ]
The AGSM license caused conniptions with the AT&T lawyers.
While AGSM fell into the near free “University & Education” license, they weren’t using Unix just for ‘education’.
AGSM became the first commercial licensee of Unix, or so I was told at the time.
Ian Johnstone was AUUGN editor while at AGSM, before scooting off to the USA and rising to heights there.
While Ball & Brown studied in Faculty of Commerce, they obviously had enough of a grounding
in ‘computing’ and data collection / handling / analysis to set the stage for their 1968 paper.
In 1971, Fortran IV was taught to first year students in Science, using John M Blatt’s (of UNSW) textbook.
It’s not unreasonable that Finance & Accounting had courses or training in Computing 5 years before that.
Within 10 years, they were both back at UNSW, running AGSM, teaching & using Digital research methods,
based solidly on Unix…
cheers
steve
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<https://www.agsm.edu.au/bobm/editorials/0206edit.html>
Looking back, I realise it must have been a fortuitous convergence for me:
thanks to Philip Brown and Ian Johnstone, the AGSM had been running Unix machines since 1976;
thanks to Bob Wood, I read of Bob Axelrod's work with GAs in examining the Repeated Prisoner's Dilemma before it was published
(and Axelrod was also at Michigan);
thanks to my innate curiosity, I had been reading and contributing to the Usenet news groups on the Internet since 1986.
Sydney was not so far from Ann Arbor, finally.
===============
Phillip Brown
<https://fbe.unimelb.edu.au/accounting/caip/aahof/ceremonies/philip_brown>
Philip Brown holds an important and unique place within the annals of Australian accounting.
As co-author of the research paper that redefined the course of academic accounting research in the last forty years
he inadvertently set the research agendas and directions for a legion of academics that followed.
Philip started school at Riverstone in western Sydney with a short stint at Summer Hill in his final two years of primary education
proceeding to Canterbury Boys High School where he scored an average pass in his Leaving Certificate.
He then worked as a junior clerk in the accounting department of British Motor Corporation at Zetland.
Advised to seek tertiary qualifications he thought he should enrol for a commerce degree at the University of NSW.
Despite this advice, Philip enrolled as a part-time student in the Faculty of Commerce at University of New South Wales gaining the highest pass in the course.
This level of achievement was maintained throughout his degree leading inevitably to an honours year,
graduating with First Class Honours and taking a University Medal.
After graduation Philip tutored at University of New South Wales,
received a Fulbright Scholarship to study in the USA heading to the University of Chicago Graduate School of Business.
He completed his MBA in 1963 finishing top of the class
During this period [2 years after MBS] he met Ray Ball with whom he wrote a seminal paper that defined the course of accounting research for the next forty years.
Rather than pursue a career in the United States, Philip returned to Australia as a Reader in Accounting at the University of Western Australia (July, 1968 – June, 1970).
In 1974, Philip moved to Sydney to help establish the Australian Graduate School of Management (AGSM).
As inaugural Foundation Director he introduced world-class MBA and MPA (public administration) programs
to develop the skills of Australia's future leaders.
During his AGSM days Philip championed the development of Australian data in financial accounting research.
He saw the need for Australian share price data to be systematically collected and made available to researchers
spending a great deal of time personally collecting data and providing programming support for these databases.
The existence of these databases as a high quality resource for researchers is often taken for granted today
but it was the foresight scholars with foresight like Philip who saw the need and acted accordingly.
===============
Ray Ball
<https://fbe.unimelb.edu.au/accounting/caip/aahof/ceremonies/ray-ball>
Raymond John Ball is one of the most influential contemporary accounting scholars,
having held professorial positions in Australia at UNSW and Queensland,
and in the United States at Rochester and Chicago.
With a first-class honours degree and the University Medal from UNSW,
Ray moved to the University of Chicago where he earned an MBA and PhD.
In 1968 Ray Ball co-authored the seminal paper
‘An Empirical Evaluation of Accounting Income Numbers’
that revolutionised financial accounting research.
Drawing on the developing financial economics literature and linking accounting information and share prices in a novel manner,
the paper provided the foundation for modern capital markets-based research.
As the inaugural recipient of the American Accounting Association’s Seminal Contributions to the Accounting Literature Award in 1986
it was observed that
‘no other paper … has played so important a role in the development of accounting research during the past thirty years’.
It remains the most highly cited accounting research paper.
Ray Ball has also had a major influence on accounting education in Australia, h
aving been Professor of Accounting at the University of Queensland (1972-1976),
and foundation professor at the Australian Graduate School of Management (UNSW) (1976-1986),
where he was instrumental in the development of the first US-style PhD program in Accounting and Finance in Australia.
During his time at Queensland and UNSW he was instrumental in developing rigorous empirical research in Australian capital markets,
addressing issues such as the risk/return trade-off, dividend policy and taxation mechanisms.
===============
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Steve Jenkin, IT Systems and Design
0412 786 915 (+61 412 786 915)
PO Box 38, Kippax ACT 2615, AUSTRALIA
mailto:sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au http://members.tip.net.au/~sjenkin
Hello fellow lovers of old UNIX,
Would anyone happen to have a raster scan (not OCR) of the original
printing of UNIX Programmer's Manual, 7th edition? Does such a thing
exist? Given that Brian S. Walden produced and published a PDF reprint
of this manual (presumably done with some "modern" version of troff)
back in 1998, I reason that there probably wasn't much interest in
preserving the original print by painstaking scanning (and the files
from such a scan would have been ginormous by 1998 standards), hence I
am not certain if such a scanned version exists - but I thought I
would ask nonetheless.
I was however very pleased to discover that some very kind soul named
Erica Fischer did scan and upload the complete set of Usenix printed
books for 4.2BSD and 4.3BSD - here is the 4.2BSD version:
https://archive.org/details/uum-ref-4.2bsdhttps://archive.org/details/uum-supplement-4.2bsdhttps://archive.org/details/upm-ref-4.2bsdhttps://archive.org/details/upm-supplement-4.2bsdhttps://archive.org/details/smm-4.2bsd
and here is 4.3BSD:
https://archive.org/details/uum-ref-4.3bsdhttps://archive.org/details/uum-supplement-4.3bsdhttps://archive.org/details/upm-ref-4.3bsdhttps://archive.org/details/upm-sup1-4.3bsdhttps://archive.org/details/upm-sup2-4.3bsdhttps://archive.org/details/smm-4.3bsdhttps://archive.org/details/uum-index-4.3bsd
It is my understanding that all supplementary docs (the papers that
were originally in volumes 2a and 2b in the V7 manual) were retroffed
by UCB/Usenix for 4.3BSD edition, but the earlier 4.2BSD Usenix print
seems to be different - it looks like for 4.2BSD they only did a new
troff run for all man pages and for new (Berkeley-added) supplementary
docs, but in the case of docs which originally appeared in V7 vol 2,
it appears that Usenix did some kind of analogue mass reproduction
from a historical V7 master, *without* doing a new troff run on those
docs. *If* this hypothesis is correct, then Erica's uploaded scan of
4.2BSD manuals can serve as a practical substitute for the presumably-
missing scan of the original printing of V7 manual - but I would like
to double-check my hypothesis with others who are presumably more
knowledgeable about this ancient history (some of you actually lived
through that history, unlike me!), hence the reason for this post.
I would appreciate either confirmation or correction of the guesses
and conjectures I expressed above.
M~
