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by Angus Robinson

Hi I am sure there must have been an email about this if so, I do apologies. The below link is from Diomidis Spinellis work, I remember seeinng an email from him a few months ago requesting some information about the history of BSD. Looking at it, he has done some amazing work. I look forward to playing with 386BSD! https://github.com/dspinellis/unix-history-repo

8 years, 7 months

looking for source code to University of Illinois "Network Unix"

by Paul Ruizendaal

Hi, I'm looking for the source code to "Network Unix" as described here: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc681 and/or its later development described here: https://archive.org/details/networkunixsyste243kell Actually, I'd be happy with finding the source code to any version of this Network Unix. This version of Unix had fairly wide use in the Arpanet community and was in use at several universities and organizations (e.g.: Rand, BBN, etc.) Would anybody here know of a surviving copy? Many thanks in advance, Paul

8 years, 7 months

Re: [TUHS] looking for 4.1a BSD full kernel source

by Paul Ruizendaal

Hi Diomidis, Thanks for that link. This is exactly what I'm trying to ascertain, and I'm finding conflicting evidence. - The socket API was in a state of flux between October '81 and March '82 (when 4.1a was supposedly cut). By March '82 it was mostly there, but not until later in the year did it fully stabilize. - The BBN stack did not use the sockets API as late as January '82 - What I currently fathom from the SCCS files is that the socket API implementation was hard coded to use the nascent Berkeley stack. - But the BBN code was likely in the 4.x BSD source tree, outside of SCCS (Berkeley started out with the BBN code, but it morphed quite quickly and drastically) - In 1985 the BBN code finally enters SCCS (marked 'deprecated'); this code was integrated with the sockets API, and much developed from its 1982 form Either the below link is correct (and I think I may have contributed to its view in a private mail to Kirk), or there were two different distributions (4.1a BSD with Berkeley network code and 4BSD with BBN network code). The two may have merged into one in peoples' memories: 35 years is a long time. Finding the actual kernel source for the 4.1a distribution could provide clarity on this point. Perhaps Bill Joy could shed some light on the issue, but I don't have contact details. Having actual source removes all doubt. Paul On 1 Dec 2016, at 10:51 , Diomidis Spinellis wrote: > The best description I could find is the following: > > http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/2016-September/007417.html > > > The 4.1a distribution had the initial socket interface with a > > prerelease of the BBN TCP/IP under it. There was wide distribution > > of 4.1a. The 4.1b distribution had the fast filesystem added and > > a more mature socket interface (notably the listen/accept model > > added by Sam Leffler). > > Diomidis > > On 01/12/2016 10:30, Paul Ruizendaal wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm trying to find out exactly what was in the 4.1a BSD distribution, as far as the kernel is concerned. The image in the CSRG archive comes from a tape that had a hard read error and does not include any kernel sources. Some of the kernel files were already covered by SCCS around that time, but not everything. My main focus is to understand tcp/ip networking in 4.1a and whether the kernel could be built with either the Berkeley or the BBN network stack. >> >> Does anybody know where I could find a full set of kernel sources for the 4.1a BSD kernel? >> >> Many thanks in advance! >> >> Paul >> >

8 years, 7 months

looking for 4.1a BSD full kernel source

by Paul Ruizendaal

Hi, I'm trying to find out exactly what was in the 4.1a BSD distribution, as far as the kernel is concerned. The image in the CSRG archive comes from a tape that had a hard read error and does not include any kernel sources. Some of the kernel files were already covered by SCCS around that time, but not everything. My main focus is to understand tcp/ip networking in 4.1a and whether the kernel could be built with either the Berkeley or the BBN network stack. Does anybody know where I could find a full set of kernel sources for the 4.1a BSD kernel? Many thanks in advance! Paul

8 years, 7 months

Re: [TUHS] RIP J.F.Ossanna

by Norman Wilson

Larry McVoy: I've always morned that he died so early. I would have liked to talk to him, I love troff to this day. ==== Me too (s/morn/mourn/, of course). I might even have had the chance to work with him. The original UNIX crowd were all really neat characters, albeit sometimes a trifle overly characterful. All nice guys to work with, too, at least those who were still around when I was at 1127. Norman Wilson Toronto ON

8 years, 7 months

RIP J.F.Ossanna

by Dave Horsfall

We lost J.F.Ossanna in 1977; he had a hand in developing Unix, and was responsible for "roff" and its descendants. Remember him, the next time you see "jfo" in documentation. -- Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will suffer."

8 years, 7 months

Grace Hopper

by Rudi Blom

Probably most read about it, but just FYI "Grace Hopper and Margaret Hamilton awarded Presidential Medal of Freedom for computing advances" https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/17/grace-hopper-and-margaret-hamilton-awarde… Grace's wiki page shows a 'real' computer bug :-)

8 years, 7 months

Retro UNIX 8086 / 80386

by Jason Stevens

I stumbled onto this by accident, and yes it really is a port of UNIX v1 from PDP-11 assembly into 8086/80386 assembly. I fired up Qemu and some of the disk images and it booted up! the directories contain assembly, text files, pdf's, images, and pictures... I have no idea how to build it I didn't see any make file, but it looks very interesting! http://www.singlix.com/runix/index.html Also you may want to mute the tab, or turn your speakers down, it has an embedded music player.

8 years, 7 months

another Unix V7 port

by Nelson H. F. Beebe

I just found a project that has ported Unix V7 to a modern system, and a search of my TUHS archives finds no previous mention of it: V7/x86 - x86 port of UNIX V7 http://www.nordier.com/v7x86/index.html V7/x86 on VirtualBox http://www.nordier.com/articles/v7x86_vbox.html The jwhois command identifies the host site as (possibly) located in Durban, South Africa. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - University of Utah FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB Internet e-mail: beebe(a)math.utah.edu - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe(a)acm.org beebe(a)computer.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/ - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

8 years, 7 months

Re: [TUHS] TUHS Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5

by David

Can’t help about that DEC-ism. Do have these 2. News from Xerox Corporation: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE XEROX ANNOUNCES HYPER-ETHERNET SAN FRANCISCO, CA. Jan 7. 2010 - Xerox today announced Hyper-Ethernet their fourth generation local area network. In addition to its ability to transmit text data and images, Hyper- Ethernet enables the transmission of people. ”People transmission over Hyper-Ethernet" according to Michael Liddle, V.P. of Office Systems. "will greatly reduce elevator congestion and eliminate the need for video conferencing.“ Order taking for Hyper-Ethemet will begin next month. Installation will start in Los Angeles in the Third Quarter. In a related announcement. Wang Labs. headquartered in Hoboken. New Jersey, announced Super- Hyper Wangnet their twelfth generation local area network. According to Freddie Wang, President of Wang Labs. "Super-Hyper-Wangnet will not only transmit people over the Wangband, but will also transmit furniture and buildings over the interconnect and utility bands. These additional capabilities of Super-Hyper Wangnet are vital to the emerging office of the future." Order taking for Super-Hyper-Wangnet will begin next month. Installation has already occurred worldwide. IBM Corporation. who has been rumored to be about to announce a local area network since 1980, was not available for comment. xxx Followed by Digital Responds to Hyper-Ethernet TEWKSBURY. MA. April 1. 2010 -- Digital Equipment announced today it's new DECnet Phase XVIII Architecture. In response to recent Xerox and Wang improvements to Ethernet that provide people and facility transportation across inter-node links DEC‘s latest DECnet provides these capabilities as well as providing for the creation of virtual facilities and even countries. These capabilities are provided by breakthroughs in communications technology that actually uses the Ether as a communications media. Through the use of a new dedicated NANO-PDP-11/E99 gateway processor system, ETHERGATE, DECnet users can access anywhere in the Ethereal Plane. This development obsoletes teleconferencing, since meeting groups can create their own common conference rooms and cafeterias, thus resolving space, travel and dining problems. There may be a few bugs left, as some of the dissenting DECnet Review Group members have not been seen since the last meeting held in such a virtual conference facility. This breakthrough was brought about by a team effort of the Distributed Systems‘ Software and Hardware engineering teams in a effort to improve on their Tewksbury, Massachusetts facility. In a compromise decision, Distributed Systems will maintain an ETHERGATE in TWOOO, but it will connect directly to their new home somewhere in the Shire of their newly deﬁned Middle Earth reality. Despite some difﬁculties, the scenery, windows tax breaks, pool and racquetball courts made the relocation go quite smoothly. Engineering Network topology will not change, as all forwarding will be done by the TWOOO Ethereal Plane Router residing in the crater at the former building site. Utility packages such as Ethereal Person Transfer (EPT) and Ethereal Facility Transfer (EFT) provide appropriate capabilities for casual users. Sophiscated users can create (SCREATE), access (SOPEN), and delete (SNUKE) ethereal entities transparently from high level languages using the Ethereal Management System (EMS) package and the Ethereal Access Protocol (EAP). An ETHERTRIEVE utility for easy interactive use will be available shortly. DECnet Phase XVIII follows on the success of the Phase XVI ability to access everyone‘s Digital Professional wrist watch computer system. This lead to the current Phase XVII architecture, which has routing capabilities that allow direct communications with the entire Earth population's Atari home video games. Distributed Systems architects are hard at work on the next phase of DECnet that will include multi-plane existence network management (using the NIECE protocol) and galaxy level routing using 64K bit addresses. Digital will continue to support it's Gateway products into the Prime Material Plane. These products include an IBM ANA (Acronym-based Network Architecture) Gateway, the TOLKIEN product that allows control of all ring based networks, and our Mega-broad-jump-band hardware which leaps past Wang's products in the hype weary business marketplace. From our Engineering Net. (You can tell that they're really working on on it. Racquetball courts indeed!) David > On Nov 17, 2016, at 6:00 PM, tuhs-request(a)minnie.tuhs.org wrote: > > Send TUHS mailing list submissions to > tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tuhs > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tuhs-request(a)minnie.tuhs.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tuhs-owner(a)minnie.tuhs.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of TUHS digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. OT: USENET article involving DEC machines and atomic tests > (Dave Horsfall) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 11:54:40 +1100 (EST) > From: Dave Horsfall <dave(a)horsfall.org> > To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs(a)tuhs.org> > Subject: [TUHS] OT: USENET article involving DEC machines and atomic > tests > Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.11.1611181148020.19595(a)aneurin.horsfall.org> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Hoping someone can help me here, as I've grepped the 'net to no avail. > > Back when USENET was supreme and dinosaurs strode the earth, there was a > hilarious article involving a DEC box (long forgotten it) that was used to > instrument underground atomic tests. In one scene, the box was atop a > truck which was right over the hole; they both went skywards, but the data > was recovered by taking out the core memory boards and plugging them into > another box. > > Does anyone remember it? It does sound rather suss... > > -- > Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will suffer." > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > TUHS mailing list > TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org > http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tuhs > > ------------------------------ > > End of TUHS Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 > ***********************************

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