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Re: [TUHS] TeX/troff/typesetting markups - Re: SunOS 4 documentation

by Doug McIlroy

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Tim McNamara said we should make sure with Vicki Smith that it's not in the conservation easement area and if so, if that's okay? On 14 April 2017 at 17:37, M. Douglas McIlroy < M.Douglas.McIlroy(a)dartmouth.edu> wrote: > Rory, > > A possible tree-felling apportunity exists at the lookout just > north of the summit. The former view toward Baker Tower has > been totally obscured by new growth. If Dartmouth is amenable, > the taller trees might be felled in that patch. There may be > a dozen trees something like 10" in diaameter. > > I saw three other trees at scattered intervals along the > trail, which could be removed, though none is a pressing > hazard: a dead pine >18" and two leaners ~8". > --001a1143d7a672d411054d5dceaa Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Fabulous.=C2=A0</div><div class= =3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Tim McNamara said we = should make sure with Vicki Smith that it's not in the conservation eas= ement area and if so, if that's okay?=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_ex= tra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_ext= ra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 14 April 2017 at 17:37, M. Douglas Mc= Ilroy <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:M.Douglas.McIlroy@dartmouth.e= du" target=3D"_blank">M.Douglas.McIlroy(a)dartmouth.edu</a>></span> wrote:= <br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef= t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div id=3D":1mg" class=3D"a3s aXjCH m15b= 6e663c119796f">Rory,<br> <br> A possible tree-felling apportunity exists at the lookout just<br> north of the summit. The former view toward Baker Tower has<br> been totally obscured by new growth. If Dartmouth is amenable,<br> the taller trees might be felled in that patch. There may be<br> a dozen trees something like 10" in diaameter.<br> <br> I saw three other trees at scattered intervals along the<br> trail, which could be removed, though none is a pressing<br> hazard: a dead pine >18" and two leaners ~8".</div></blockquot= e></div><br><br></div></div> --001a1143d7a672d411054d5dceaa--

8 years, 2 months

Re: [TUHS] TUHS Digest, Vol 17, Issue 41

by David

Just finished it. He isn’t the greatest presenter, and it is an interesting overview of how the Bourne shell got written, including some of the quirks it has to this day. David > On Apr 15, 2017, at 7:00 PM, tuhs-request(a)minnie.tuhs.org wrote: > > Subject: [TUHS] Steven Bourne - early days of unix talk > Message-ID: <201704151756.v3FHuUI4019407(a)freefriends.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >> From the 9fans list: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kEJoWfobpA

8 years, 2 months

FTP issue

by Arrigo Triulzi

May I recommend you use the ftp-proxy setup on OpenBSD? It is well-documented here: https://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/ftp.html So far it has solved all passive FTP issues behind NAT for me. Arrigo

8 years, 2 months

Re: [TUHS] TeX/troff/typesetting markups - Re: SunOS 4 documentation

by Michael Kerpan

Comparing documents produced by Heirloom troff and modern versions of LaTeX, I just can't see a huge difference. The main thing TeX has going for it is LyX, which makes composing documents a whole lot more comfortable for folks raised on WYSIWYG. If a tool like that was available for troff... Mike On Apr 14, 2017 6:24 PM, "Toby Thain" <toby(a)telegraphics.com.au> wrote: On 2017-04-14 9:56 AM, Michael Kerpan wrote: > Of course, these days, there's a version of troff that borrows TeX's > layout rules, while also adding vastly improved font handling, support > for the most useful/widely used groff extensions, and more. Why Heirloom > troff isn't more widely used is a puzzle for the ages. > No matter how far you tart up the former, Troff and TeX just aren't playing the same ballgame. --T > Mike >

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Steven Bourne - early days of unix talk

by arnold＠skeeve.com

>From the 9fans list: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kEJoWfobpA It's about an hour long; haven't watched it yet. Arnold

8 years, 2 months

editors passim

by Steve Simon

Another one i would be interested to know more of. whilst at college i used an inter data 3210 running edition 7, which was version 7 with bits of 2.1 bsd (very much from memory). there was an editor on that machine i have never seen or heard of since - le. it was a visual editor, and i think supported multiple windows, of termcap style. anyone know more? -Steve

8 years, 2 months

The QED editor, and its modern versions

by Christian Neukirchen

While we are on the topic of old Unix editors, I once made Caltech qed build again: https://github.com/chneukirchen/qed-caltech Also, I've been trying to contact David Tilbrook, who maintains(-ed?) his own version of qed, without success. I got an evaluation copy of his QEF build system, which contains a bit of documentation about it, but no binary. Perhaps someone here can help out, or knows more? -- Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen(a)gmail.com> http://chneukirchen.org

8 years, 2 months

UK written UNIX line editor in early 80s?

by Steve Mynott

In the autumn of 1984 as an undergrad at Durham University (UK) I remember using a Pascal compiler (pc) on a BSD4.1 system (bumped after several months to 4.1c and running I would guess on a small VAX?) and using a strange line editor (probably because the terminal had crude screen handling capabilities?). I can't remember much about it other than it seemed to resemble ex. I think I was told it was written in the UK and doing some Googling suggests it may have been "em" (Editor for Mortals) from Queen Mary College. However, the time frame for that editor was late 70s and it would have been quite old by 1984. So my current theory is that it was a fork (maybe with a different name) or later version? Anyone use this editor or anything similar around 1984? -- 4096R/EA75174B Steve Mynott <steve.mynott(a)gmail.com>

8 years, 2 months

The Rand Editor

by ron minnich

is this code lost or out there somewhere?

8 years, 2 months

BSD 4.2 distribution differences

by Arthur Krewat

Hello all... I have a BSD 4.2 distribution that I imaged a few years back. It differs from the one in Warren's archives in subtle but significant ways. It appears to be a few months earlier than the one at: http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/UCB/4.2BSD/ Case in point, from srcsys.tar: diff -r ./GENERIC/vers.c /home/krewat/archive/unix/tuhs/4BSD/Distributions/4.2BSD/bin/srcsys/GENERIC/vers.c 1c1 < char version[] = "4.2 BSD UNIX #8: Sun Oct 2 12:03:09 PDT 1983\n"; --- > char version[] = "4.2 BSD UNIX #9: Wed Nov 2 16:00:29 PST 1983\n"; or from src.tar: diff -r ./bin/mail.c /home/krewat/archive/unix/tuhs/4BSD/Distributions/4.2BSD/bin/src/bin/mail.c 2c2 < static char sccsid[] = "@(#)mail.c 4.18 (Berkeley) 9/9/83"; --- > static char sccsid[] = "@(#)mail.c 4.21 (Berkeley) 11/1/83"; 449,454d448 < if (strcmp(my_name, "root") && < strcmp(my_name, "daemon") && < strcmp(my_name, "network")) { < usage(); < done(); < } (was doing a diff -r of the entire tree) stand (first file on tape) is the same down to the checksum. But the checksum for every other file (tape files, not individual files) on the tape is different. Also weird is that on my distribution, these exist: < -rwxrwxr-x 0/10 0 Jul 26 16:37 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ < -r--r--r-- 0/10 3522 Jul 26 03:08 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/lmacs < -r--r--r-- 0/10 5196 Sep 25 21:01 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch0.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 13713 Sep 25 21:01 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch1.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 42144 Sep 25 21:01 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch2.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 9278 Jul 26 03:09 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch3.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 34324 Sep 25 21:01 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch4.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 18913 Jul 26 03:10 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch5.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 21543 Sep 25 21:01 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch6.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 162 Jul 26 03:10 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch61.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 19093 Jul 26 03:10 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch7.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 26713 Sep 25 21:01 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch8.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 12914 Jul 26 03:11 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch9.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 8107 Jul 26 03:11 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch10.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 8694 Sep 25 21:01 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch11.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 22170 Jul 26 03:12 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch12.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 11453 Jul 26 03:12 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch13.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 6678 Jul 26 03:12 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch14.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 6368 Jul 26 03:12 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch15.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 36465 Jul 26 03:13 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch16.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 6301 Jul 26 03:13 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/chb.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 4364 Jul 26 03:13 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/chc.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 5700 Jul 26 03:13 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/Makefile < -r--r--r-- 0/10 12 Jul 26 03:13 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/indexsed < -r--r--r-- 0/10 98 Jul 26 03:13 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/mantags < -r--r--r-- 0/10 166 Jul 26 03:13 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/extrnames.awk < -r--r--r-- 0/10 94 Jul 26 03:13 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/fixmks.sed < -r--r--r-- 0/10 57142 Jul 26 03:14 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/franz.n But in the TUHS version, ./usb/lisp/doc is linked to /usr/doc/lisp - which doesn't seem to exist. These are just examples of what I see and not the only differences.

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