Please excuse the wide distribution, but I suspect this will have general
interest in all of these communities due to the loss of the LCM+Labs.
The good folks from SDF.org are trying to create the Interim Computer
Museum:
https://icm.museum/join.html
As Lars pointed out in an earlier message to COFF there is a 1hr
presentation on the plans for the ICM.
https://toobnix.org/w/ozjGgBQ28iYsLTNbrczPVo
FYI: The yearly (Bootstrap) subscription is $36
They need to money to try to keep some of these systems online and
available. The good news is that it looks like many of the assets, such as
Miss Piggy, the Multics work, the Toads, and others, from the old LCM are
going to be headed to a new home.
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Just sharing a copy of the Roff Manual that I had forgotten I scanned a little while back:
https://archive.org/details/roff_manual
This appears to be the UNIX complement to the S/360 version of the paper backed up by Doug here: https://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~doug/roff71/roff71.pdf
From the best I could tell, this predates both 1973's V3 and the 1971 S/360 version of the paper, putting it somewhere prior to 1971. For instance, it is missing the .ar, .hx, .ig, .ix, .ni, .nx, .ro, .ta, and .tc requests found in V3. The .ar and .ro, and .ta requests pop up in the S/360 paper, the rest are in the V3 manpage (prior manpages don't list the request summary).
If anyone has some authoritative date information I can update the archive description accordingly.
Finally, this very well could be missing the last page, the Page offset, Merge patterns, and Envoi sections of Doug's paper are not reflected here, although at the very least, the .mg request is not in this paper so the Merge patterns section probably wasn't there anyway.
- Matt G.
I had meant to copy TUSH on this/
On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 2:41 PM Tom Lyon <pugs78(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I got excited by your mention of a S/360 version, but Doug's link talks
> about the GECOS version (GE/Honeywell hardware).
>
> Princeton had a S/360 version at about that time, it was a re-write of a
> version for the IBM 7094 done by Kernighan after spending a summer at MIT
> with CTSS and RUNOFF. I'm very curious whether the Princeton S/360 version
> spread to other locations. Found this article in the Daily Princetonian
> about the joy and history of ROFF.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/zMWV1GRLZdNBUuP36
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 1:51 PM segaloco via TUHS <tuhs(a)tuhs.org> wrote:
>
>> Just sharing a copy of the Roff Manual that I had forgotten I scanned a
>> little while back:
>>
>> https://archive.org/details/roff_manual
>>
>> This appears to be the UNIX complement to the S/360 version of the paper
>> backed up by Doug here:
>> https://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~doug/roff71/roff71.pdf
>>
>> From the best I could tell, this predates both 1973's V3 and the 1971
>> S/360 version of the paper, putting it somewhere prior to 1971. For
>> instance, it is missing the .ar, .hx, .ig, .ix, .ni, .nx, .ro, .ta, and .tc
>> requests found in V3. The .ar and .ro, and .ta requests pop up in the
>> S/360 paper, the rest are in the V3 manpage (prior manpages don't list the
>> request summary).
>>
>> If anyone has some authoritative date information I can update the
>> archive description accordingly.
>>
>> Finally, this very well could be missing the last page, the Page offset,
>> Merge patterns, and Envoi sections of Doug's paper are not reflected here,
>> although at the very least, the .mg request is not in this paper so the
>> Merge patterns section probably wasn't there anyway.
>>
>> - Matt G.
>>
>
> Yeah, but if you do that you have to treat the places
> acquired in the Louisiana Purchase differently because
> they switched in 1582. And Puerto Rico. Bleh.
Then there are all the German city states. And the
shifting borders of Poland. (cal -s country) is a mighty
low-res "solution" to the Julian/Gregorian problem.
Doug
The manpage for "cal" used to have the comment "Try September 1752" (and
yes, I know why); it's no longer there, so when did it disappear? The
SysV fun police?
I remember it in Ed5 and Ed6, but can't remember when I last saw it.
Thanks.
-- Dave
A few folks on the PIDP mailing lists asked me to put scans of the cards I
have on-line. I included TUHS as some of the new to the PDP-11 folks might
find these interesting also.
I also included a few others from other folks. Note my scans are in 3
formats (JPG, TIFF, PDF) as each has advantages. Pick which one you
prefer. I tried to scan in as a high a resolution as I could in case some
one wants to try to print the later.
I may try adding some of my other cards, such as my microprocessor and IBM
collections. In the future
https://drive.google.com/open?id=13dPAlRMQEwNvPwLXwlOC5Q_ZrQp4IpkJ&usp=driv…
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I subscribe to the TUHS mailing list, delivered in digest form. I do not
remember having subscribed to COFF, and am not aware of how to do so. Yet
COFF messges come in my TUHS digest. How does COFF differ from TUHS and how
does one subscibe to it (if at all)?
Doug
Just had a quick look at 'man cat' on Uixes I've got 'at hand'. Just a 'cut
and past' of the relevant parts.
SCO UNIX 3.2V4.2
Limitations
Note that ``cal 84'' refers to the year 84, not 1984.
The calendar produced is the Gregorian calendar from September 14 1752
onward. Dates up to and including September 2 1752 use the Julian calen-
dar. (England and her colonies switched from the Julian to the
Gregorian
calendar in September 1752, at which time eleven days were excised from
the year. To see the result of this switch, try cal 9 1752.)
Digital UNIX 4.0g
DESCRIPTION
The cal command writes to standard output a Gregorian calendar for the
specified year or month.
For historical reasons, the cal command's Gregorian calendar is
discontinu-
ous. The display for September 1752 (cal 9 1752) jumps from Wednesday the
2nd to Thursday the 14th.
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The more I learn the better I understand I know nothing.
