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Re: [pups] Trouble with 2.11BSD and CQD-220

by Steven M. Schultz

Hi - > From: "Chuck Dickman" <chd_1(a)nktelco.net> > Combining what Steven and Tom have said and looking at ra.c > in standalone, I think I have a working version of rauboot now. Congratulations! It's a Good Thing when folks who encounter a problem can also provide a fix :-) If Tim Shoppa has a chance it'd be nice to confirm that the Viking adaptor is happy with the changed rauboot (it should be but...). Thanks again for the fix. Steven Schultz sms(a)2bsd.com

23 years, 8 months

Re: [pups] Trouble with 2.11BSD and CQD-220

by Steven M. Schultz

Hi - > From: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo <tih(a)Hamartun.Priv.NO> > Not exactly. You and I actually worked this out together back in > 1995, when I was figuring out how to get Reno to boot my VAX using a > CQD-220. :-) You don't have to present any interrupt vector, but you Has it been that long? ;) > shouldn't lie to the controller about this. Instead of setting the But if you do present a vector then everything should work, right? The problem isn't in the standalone 'ra' driver though - that seems to be working. The boot block though ends up in an endless loop during the 'online the unit' command (after the initialization). > "please interrupt" bit in the MSCP datagram, and waiting for the > controller to set the "I've interrupted now" bit, you should set the > "controller owns this datagram now" bit, and wait for it to clear it. > This make much better sense, anyway, while running in polled mode. True. I'd have to look at the mdec/rauboot.s sources to see exactly what it is doing (or not doing ;)). The change Tim Shoppa made was to specify a vector and that did the trick for the Viking controller. Steven

23 years, 8 months

Re: [pups] Trouble with 2.11BSD and CQD-220

by Steven M. Schultz

hi - > From: "Chuck Dickman" <chd_1(a)nktelco.net> > fine. Except... I cannot get it to boot directly from the SCSI drive. > > More detail.... The processor is an 11/73 and the SCSI controller is a > CMD CQD-220 with a Fujitsu 220MB drive. The CQD-220 is set as the primary > MSCP controller and an RQDX3 with an RX50 drive as the secondary MSCP... > > .: ra(0,0,0)unix > > boots unix from the SCSI drive. > > When booting from the SCSI drive, the boot sector is loaded into memory > and then relocated. It hangs waiting for the MSCP controller to respond. > I have not diagnosed it to the command that hangs. Bug in the CMD controller but CMD isn't unique - others have had the problem as well. The bug is that the controller insists on an interrupt vector being presented during the 3 or 4 step initialization protocol. The 2BSD boot block code is running without interrupts enabled and does not provide an interrupt vector. The result is an endless loop waiting for the controller to say it is done. > Is anybody else booting 2.11BSD directly from a drive attached to a > CQD-220? Perhaps the appended patch (#432) will be of use ;) The patchlevel of the 2.11 in the PUPS archive is 431 if I looked at the right direcctory (you can check the rev level by looking at the first couple lines of /VERSION). Patch rauboot.s and reinstall the bootblock - I think that will fix your problem of booting directly from the CMD attached disk. Steven Schultz sms(a)2bsd.com ------------------------cut here---------------------- Subject: Y2K troff fix, 4.3compat remnant removed, misc cleanup (#432) Index: share/tmac/{tman.an.new,tmac.s},sys/sys/{several},others 2.11BSD Description: 1. The 'ms', 'man' and 'me' troff macro packages do not correctly handle dates past 1999. 2. There was some unused 4.3BSD compatibility code lingering in the kernel taking up I space. 3. Kermit coredumps with an illegal system call. 4. rlogin(1), resolver(3), contained some Vax/Sun/4.3BSD conditional code that was no longer needed. 5. The MSCP bootblock could not boot disks attached to a TD Systems Viking MSCP controller. 6. /etc/rc.local uses strings(1) on the kernel image instead of simply asking the kernel for its version information with "sysctl kern.version". There's no reason why /etc/motd needs to be publically writeable. 7. sysctl 'kern.ostype' and 'kern.osrelease' return the same information which is silly (and a bit useless). 8. BSD in param.h was defined as "211" which makes date/time comparisons meaningless ("#if BSD > 199910"). Repeat-By: 1. Format a document that uses the "-ms" macro package and has dates in it. Notice that the date will be "October 6, 19100" instead of "October 6 2000". 2 - 4. Observation. 5. Have a MSCP disk attached to a TD Viking Systems controller. The boot block will go into an endless loop waiting for the controller to respond. 6 - 7. Observation. Fix: A big thank you to Frank Wortnet for spotting and fixing the troff macros. Thanks to Tim Shoppa for tracking down the problem with the Viking MSCP controller and providing the tweek to the RA bootblock. I forget who submitted the suggestion that /etc/motd not be publically writeable. Thanks. The remaining parts of the update are various odds and ends that have been gathering since May or June 2000 but never made it out as an update due to time contraints. When the 4.3 compatibility code was ripped out a couple parts were overlooked. They're not used and just take up space in the kernel (a few bytes here, a few bytes there and fitting the overlays together is made harder than it need be) and also slowed the system slightly due to calling 'helper' functions (function call/return are fairly expensive). Another overlooked item when the compatibility code was removed was the Kermit program. At the time the old system calls were removed it was necessary to rebuild the entire system from sources. Kermit is (due to its size) not rebuilt along with the rest of the system. Thus, if you attempt to run Kermit it coredumps with an illegal system call. All that is needed is a recompile (takes about an hour). Having sysctl(3) return the same information for 'kern.ostype' and 'kern.osrelease' was a mistake. This has been changed to be more useful. 'sysctl kern.ostype' now returns "BSD" and 'sysctl kern.osrelease' returns "2.11". In <sys/param.h> the BSD define has been changed from 211 to 200005 (year 2000, month 5) to more accurately reflect the system's capabilities. Basically 'BSD' has changed from an encoded release value to a stylized date value. Sections of the kernel (and several userland programs) which relied on "#if BSD < 43" to select old compatibility features were modified or removed as a result of changing the meaning of 'BSD' in param.h. Indeed much of the size of the patch is directly related to the change in param.h rlogin(1) was cleaned up. Standard include files were used rather than locally declaring functions such as index(3) and so on. As long as rlogin was being worked on the sources and the manpage were relocated in accordance with the convention that the manpage source goes into the sourcecode directory. The update kit below is a shar file containing 4 files: 432.patch = a file to be fed thru patch(1) 432.sh = a shell script to rearrange rlogin(1)'s files 432.rm = a shell script to remove old rlogin(1) files 432.shar = a shar file of rlogin(1)'s new Makefile The two shell scripts are small (just two or three commands each). The commands could of course be typed in manually if desired. To install the update cut where indicated below and save to a file (/tmp/432) and then: cd /tmp sh 432 ./432.sh ./432.rm sh 432.shar patch -p0 < 432.patch Watch carefully for any rejected parts of the patch. Failure of a patch typically means the system was not current on all preceeding updates _or_ that local modifications have been made. Next rebuild Kermit if this has not previously been done: cd /usr/src/new/kermit5.188 make bsd211 cp wermit /usr/new/kermit make clean The updated troff macros are installed next: cd /usr/src/share/me make install cd /usr/src/share/tmac make install It is not required to build a new kernel at this time since the only changes were to remove code that was not being used. One reason to build a new kernel would be to make sure the overlay structure is still valid: cd /sys/YOUR_KERNEL make clean make and then install as usual Lastly the MSCP bootblock is recompiled and installed in /mdec: cd /sys/mdec install -m 444 rauboot /mdec/rauboot make clean As always this and previous updates to 2.11BSD are available via anonymous FTP to either FTP.IIPO.GTEGSC.COM or MOE.2BSD.COM in the directory /pub/2.11BSD. ============================cut here=========================== #! /bin/sh # This is a shell archive, meaning: # 1. Remove everything above the #! /bin/sh line. # 2. Save the resulting text in a file. # 3. Execute the file with /bin/sh (not csh) to create: # 432.rm # 432.sh # 432.shar # 432.patch # This archive created: Fri Oct 13 21:52:42 2000 export PATH; PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:$PATH if test -f '432.rm' then echo shar: "will not over-write existing file '432.rm'" else sed 's/^B//' << \SHAR_EOF > '432.rm' B B#!/bin/sh B Brm -f /usr/src/man/man1/rlogin.1 Brm -f /usr/src/ucb/rlogin.c SHAR_EOF chmod 755 '432.rm' fi if test -f '432.sh' then echo shar: "will not over-write existing file '432.sh'" else sed 's/^B//' << \SHAR_EOF > '432.sh' B#!/bin/sh B Bset -e Bumask 22 B Bmkdir -p /usr/src/ucb/rlogin Bcp -p /usr/src/ucb/rlogin.c /usr/src/ucb/rlogin/rlogin.c Bcp -p /usr/src/man/man1/rlogin.1 /usr/src/ucb/rlogin/rlogin.1 SHAR_EOF chmod 755 '432.sh' fi if test -f '432.shar' then echo shar: "will not over-write existing file '432.shar'" else sed 's/^B//' << \SHAR_EOF > '432.shar' B#! /bin/sh B# This is a shell archive, meaning: B# 1. Remove everything above the #! /bin/sh line. B# 2. Save the resulting text in a file. B# 3. Execute the file with /bin/sh (not csh) to create: B# /usr/src/ucb/rlogin/Makefile B# This archive created: Thu Oct 12 21:10:13 2000 Bexport PATH; PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:$PATH Bif test -f '/usr/src/ucb/rlogin/Makefile' Bthen B echo shar: "will not over-write existing file '/usr/src/ucb/rlogin/Makefile'" Belse Bsed 's/^Z//' << \SHAR_EOF > '/usr/src/ucb/rlogin/Makefile' BZ# BZ# Public Domain. 1996/11/16 - Steven Schultz BZ# BZ# @(#)Makefile 1.0 (2.11BSD) 2000/5/17 BZ# BZCFLAGS= -O BZSEPFLAG= -i BZSRCS= rlogin.c BZOBJS= rlogin.o BZMAN= rlogin.0 BZMANSRC= rlogin.1 BZ BZall: rlogin rlogin.0 BZ BZrlogin: ${OBJS} BZ ${CC} ${CFLAGS} ${SEPFLAG} -o $@ ${OBJS} BZ BZrlogin.0: ${MANSRC} BZ /usr/man/manroff ${MANSRC} > ${MAN} BZ BZclean: BZ rm -f ${OBJS} ${MAN} rlogin tags BZ BZdepend: ${SRCS} BZ mkdep ${CFLAGS} ${SRCS} BZ BZinstall: rlogin BZ install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 ${MAN} ${DESTDIR}/usr/man/cat1 BZ install -s -o root -g bin -m 4755 rlogin ${DESTDIR}/usr/ucb/rlogin BZ BZlint: ${SRCS} BZ lint -hax ${SRCS} BZ BZtags: ${SRCS} BZ ctags ${SRCS} BZ# DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -- mkdep uses it. BZ# DO NOT PUT ANYTHING AFTER THIS LINE, IT WILL GO AWAY. BSHAR_EOF Bfi Bexit 0 B# End of shell archive SHAR_EOF chmod 644 '432.shar' fi if test -f '432.patch' then echo shar: "will not over-write existing file '432.patch'" else sed 's/^B//' << \SHAR_EOF > '432.patch' B*** /etc/rc.local.old Sat Nov 16 16:23:44 1996 B--- /etc/rc.local Wed May 17 21:00:28 2000 B*************** B*** 1,10 **** B #! /bin/sh - B # site-specific startup actions, daemons B B! strings /vmunix | grep UNIX >/tmp/t1 B tail +2 /etc/motd >>/tmp/t1 B mv /tmp/t1 /etc/motd B! chmod 666 /etc/motd B B echo -n starting local daemons: >/dev/console 2>&1 B #if [ $INET = YES -a -f /usr/sbin/timed ]; then B--- 1,10 ---- B #! /bin/sh - B # site-specific startup actions, daemons B B! sysctl -n kern.version | head -1 > /tmp/t1 B tail +2 /etc/motd >>/tmp/t1 B mv /tmp/t1 /etc/motd B! chmod 644 /etc/motd B B echo -n starting local daemons: >/dev/console 2>&1 B #if [ $INET = YES -a -f /usr/sbin/timed ]; then B*** /usr/src/sys/sys/kern_sysctl.c.old Wed Aug 11 19:40:36 1999 B--- /usr/src/sys/sys/kern_sysctl.c Wed May 17 20:01:48 2000 B*************** B*** 33,39 **** B * OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF B * SUCH DAMAGE. B * B! * @(#)kern_sysctl.c 8.4.11 (2.11BSD) 1999/8/11 B */ B B /* B--- 33,39 ---- B * OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF B * SUCH DAMAGE. B * B! * @(#)kern_sysctl.c 8.4.12 (2.11BSD) 2000/5/17 B */ B B /* B*************** B*** 195,204 **** B B switch (name[0]) { B case KERN_OSTYPE: B case KERN_OSRELEASE: B! /* code is cheaper than D space */ B! bsd[0]='2';bsd[1]='.';bsd[2]='1';bsd[3]='1';bsd[4]='B'; B! bsd[5]='S';bsd[6]='D';bsd[7]='\0'; B return (sysctl_rdstring(oldp, oldlenp, newp, bsd)); B case KERN_ACCTTHRESH: B level = Acctthresh; B--- 195,204 ---- B B switch (name[0]) { B case KERN_OSTYPE: B+ bsd[0]='B';bsd[1]='S';bsd[2]='D';bsd[3]='\0'; B+ return (sysctl_rdstring(oldp, oldlenp, newp, bsd)); B case KERN_OSRELEASE: B! bsd[0]='2';bsd[1]='.';bsd[2]='1';bsd[3]='1';bsd[4]='\0'; B return (sysctl_rdstring(oldp, oldlenp, newp, bsd)); B case KERN_ACCTTHRESH: B level = Acctthresh; B*** /usr/src/sys/sys/kern_prot2.c.old Sun Feb 20 18:13:08 2000 B--- /usr/src/sys/sys/kern_prot2.c Tue Aug 1 20:44:47 2000 B*************** B*** 35,41 **** B * OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF B * SUCH DAMAGE. B * B! * @(#)kern_prot2.c 8.9.2 (2.11BSD) 2000/2/20 B */ B B #include "param.h" B--- 35,41 ---- B * OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF B * SUCH DAMAGE. B * B! * @(#)kern_prot2.c 8.9.3 (2.11BSD) 2000/8/1 B */ B B #include "param.h" B*************** B*** 49,72 **** B B int B setuid() B! { B struct a { B uid_t uid; B } *uap = (struct a *)u.u_ap; B B- return(_setuid(uap->uid)); B- } B- B- /* B- * This is a helper function used by setuid() above and the 4.3BSD B- * compatibility code. When the latter goes away this can be joined B- * back into the above code and save a function call. B- */ B- int B- _setuid(uid) B- register uid_t uid; B- { B- B if (uid != u.u_ruid && !suser()) B return(u.u_error); B /* B--- 49,60 ---- B B int B setuid() B! { B struct a { B uid_t uid; B } *uap = (struct a *)u.u_ap; B+ register uid_t uid = uap->uid; B B if (uid != u.u_ruid && !suser()) B return(u.u_error); B /* B*************** B*** 78,84 **** B QUOTAMAP(); B if (u.u_quota->q_uid != uid) { B qclean(); B! qstart(getquota((uid_t)uid, 0, 0)); B } B QUOTAUNMAP(); B #endif B--- 66,72 ---- B QUOTAMAP(); B if (u.u_quota->q_uid != uid) { B qclean(); B! qstart(getquota(uid, 0, 0)); B } B QUOTAUNMAP(); B #endif B*************** B*** 88,94 **** B u.u_ruid = uid; B u.u_svuid = uid; B u.u_acflag |= ASUGID; B! return (u.u_error = 0); B } B B int B--- 76,82 ---- B u.u_ruid = uid; B u.u_svuid = uid; B u.u_acflag |= ASUGID; B! return(u.u_error = 0); B } B B int B*************** B*** 97,119 **** B struct a { B uid_t euid; B } *uap = (struct a *)u.u_ap; B B! return(_seteuid(uap->euid)); B! } B! B! int B! _seteuid(euid) B! register uid_t euid; B! { B! B! if (euid != u.u_ruid && euid != u.u_svuid && !suser()) B! return (u.u_error); B /* B * Everything's okay, do it. B */ B u.u_uid = euid; B u.u_acflag |= ASUGID; B! return (u.u_error = 0); B } B B int B--- 85,100 ---- B struct a { B uid_t euid; B } *uap = (struct a *)u.u_ap; B+ register uid_t euid = uap->euid; B B! if (euid != u.u_ruid && euid != u.u_svuid && !suser()) B! return(u.u_error); B /* B * Everything's okay, do it. B */ B u.u_uid = euid; B u.u_acflag |= ASUGID; B! return(u.u_error = 0); B } B B int B*************** B*** 122,143 **** B struct a { B gid_t gid; B } *uap = (struct a *)u.u_ap; B! B! return(_setgid(uap->gid)); B! } B B- int B- _setgid(gid) B- register gid_t gid; B- { B- B if (gid != u.u_rgid && !suser()) B! return (u.u_error); /* XXX */ B u.u_groups[0] = gid; /* effective gid is u_groups[0] */ B u.u_rgid = gid; B u.u_svgid = gid; B u.u_acflag |= ASUGID; B! return (u.u_error = 0); B } B B int B--- 103,117 ---- B struct a { B gid_t gid; B } *uap = (struct a *)u.u_ap; B! register gid_t gid = uap->gid; B B if (gid != u.u_rgid && !suser()) B! return(u.u_error); /* XXX */ B u.u_groups[0] = gid; /* effective gid is u_groups[0] */ B u.u_rgid = gid; B u.u_svgid = gid; B u.u_acflag |= ASUGID; B! return(u.u_error = 0); B } B B int B*************** B*** 146,163 **** B struct a { B gid_t egid; B } *uap = (struct a *)u.u_ap; B B- return(_setegid(uap->egid)); B- } B- B- int B- _setegid(egid) B- register gid_t egid; B- { B- B if (egid != u.u_rgid && egid != u.u_svgid && !suser()) B! return (u.u_error); B u.u_groups[0] = egid; B u.u_acflag |= ASUGID; B! return (u.u_error = 0); B } B--- 120,130 ---- B struct a { B gid_t egid; B } *uap = (struct a *)u.u_ap; B+ register gid_t egid = uap->egid; B B if (egid != u.u_rgid && egid != u.u_svgid && !suser()) B! return(u.u_error); B u.u_groups[0] = egid; B u.u_acflag |= ASUGID; B! return(u.u_error = 0); B } B*** /usr/src/sys/sys/subr_prf.c.old Sat Dec 5 17:34:36 1998 B--- /usr/src/sys/sys/subr_prf.c Tue Aug 1 20:46:48 2000 B*************** B*** 3,9 **** B * All rights reserved. The Berkeley software License Agreement B * specifies the terms and conditions for redistribution. B * B! * @(#)subr_prf.c 1.2 (2.11BSD) 1998/12/5 B */ B B #include "param.h" B--- 3,9 ---- B * All rights reserved. The Berkeley software License Agreement B * specifies the terms and conditions for redistribution. B * B! * @(#)subr_prf.c 1.3 (2.11BSD) 2000/8/1 B */ B B #include "param.h" B*************** B*** 300,306 **** B * about failing disk tranfers. B */ B harderr(bp, cp) B! struct buf *bp; B char *cp; B { B printf("%s%d%c: hard error sn%D ", cp, B--- 300,306 ---- B * about failing disk tranfers. B */ B harderr(bp, cp) B! register struct buf *bp; B char *cp; B { B printf("%s%d%c: hard error sn%D ", cp, B*** /usr/src/sys/h/param.h.old Wed Sep 15 19:38:45 1999 B--- /usr/src/sys/h/param.h Wed May 17 20:10:44 2000 B*************** B*** 3,12 **** B * All rights reserved. The Berkeley software License Agreement B * specifies the terms and conditions for redistribution. B * B! * @(#)param.h 1.6 (2.11BSD) 1999/9/5 B */ B B! #define BSD 211 /* 2.11 * 10, as cpp doesn't do floats */ B B #include <sys/localopts.h> B #include <sys/stddef.h> /* for 'offsetof' */ B--- 3,12 ---- B * All rights reserved. The Berkeley software License Agreement B * specifies the terms and conditions for redistribution. B * B! * @(#)param.h 1.7 (2.11BSD) 2000/5/17 B */ B B! #define BSD 200005 /* System version (year and month) */ B B #include <sys/localopts.h> B #include <sys/stddef.h> /* for 'offsetof' */ B*** /usr/src/sys/mdec/rauboot.s.old Wed May 31 19:54:49 1995 B--- /usr/src/sys/mdec/rauboot.s Wed May 17 19:54:13 2000 B*************** B*** 298,304 **** B clr (r0) / Tell controller we go it B rts pc B B! icons: RAERR B ra+RARING B 0 B RAGO B--- 298,309 ---- B clr (r0) / Tell controller we go it B rts pc B B! / Some adaptors (TD Systems Viking for example) require the vector field B! / to be initialized even though interrupts are not enabled. Use the primary B! / vector of 0154. The standalone MSCP driver does the same thing and later on B! / the kernel programs the adaptor with an assigned vector B! B! icons: RAERR + 033 / 033 = 0154 >> 2 B ra+RARING B 0 B RAGO B*** /usr/src/sys/netinet/raw_ip.c.old Fri Jul 7 13:30:17 1989 B--- /usr/src/sys/netinet/raw_ip.c Wed May 17 20:15:14 2000 B*************** B*** 9,15 **** B * software without specific prior written permission. This software B * is provided ``as is'' without express or implied warranty. B * B! * @(#)raw_ip.c 7.3 (Berkeley) 12/7/87 B */ B B #include "param.h" B--- 9,15 ---- B * software without specific prior written permission. This software B * is provided ``as is'' without express or implied warranty. B * B! * @(#)raw_ip.c 7.3.1 (2.11BSD) 2000/5/17 B */ B B #include "param.h" B*************** B*** 61,71 **** B int error; B struct rawcb *rp = sotorawcb(so); B struct sockaddr_in *sin; B- #if BSD>=43 B short proto = rp->rcb_proto.sp_protocol; B! #else B! short proto = so->so_proto->pr_protocol; B! #endif B /* B * if the protocol is IPPROTO_RAW, the user handed us a B * complete IP packet. Otherwise, allocate an mbuf for a B--- 61,68 ---- B int error; B struct rawcb *rp = sotorawcb(so); B struct sockaddr_in *sin; B short proto = rp->rcb_proto.sp_protocol; B! B /* B * if the protocol is IPPROTO_RAW, the user handed us a B * complete IP packet. Otherwise, allocate an mbuf for a B*************** B*** 113,125 **** B B ip->ip_dst = ((struct sockaddr_in *)&rp->rcb_faddr)->sin_addr; B B- #if BSD>=43 B return (ip_output(m, rp->rcb_options, &rp->rcb_route, B (so->so_options & SO_DONTROUTE) | IP_ALLOWBROADCAST)); B- #else B- return (ip_output(m, (struct mbuf *)0, &rp->rcb_route, B- (so->so_options & SO_DONTROUTE) | IP_ALLOWBROADCAST)); B- #endif B bad: B m_freem(m); B return (error); B--- 110,117 ---- B*** /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c.old Sat May 7 14:43:47 1988 B--- /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c Wed May 17 20:17:27 2000 B*************** B*** 9,15 **** B * software without specific prior written permission. This software B * is provided ``as is'' without express or implied warranty. B * B! * @(#)tcp_input.c 7.15.1.2 (Berkeley) 3/16/88 B */ B B #include "param.h" B--- 9,15 ---- B * software without specific prior written permission. This software B * is provided ``as is'' without express or implied warranty. B * B! * @(#)tcp_input.c 7.15.1.3 (2.11BSD) 2000/5/17 B */ B B #include "param.h" B*************** B*** 321,329 **** B inp = (struct inpcb *)so->so_pcb; B inp->inp_laddr = ti->ti_dst; B inp->inp_lport = ti->ti_dport; B- #if BSD>=43 B inp->inp_options = ip_srcroute(); B- #endif B tp = intotcpcb(inp); B tp->t_state = TCPS_LISTEN; B } B--- 321,327 ---- B*************** B*** 491,507 **** B ti->ti_seq++; B if (ti->ti_len > tp->rcv_wnd) { B todrop = ti->ti_len - tp->rcv_wnd; B- #if BSD>=43 B m_adj(m, -todrop); B- #else B- /* XXX work around 4.2 m_adj bug */ B- if (m->m_len) { B- m_adj(m, -todrop); B- } else { B- /* skip tcp/ip header in first mbuf */ B- m_adj(m->m_next, -todrop); B- } B- #endif B ti->ti_len = tp->rcv_wnd; B tiflags &= ~TH_FIN; B tcpstat.tcps_rcvpackafterwin++; B--- 489,495 ---- B*************** B*** 615,631 **** B goto dropafterack; B } else B tcpstat.tcps_rcvbyteafterwin += todrop; B- #if BSD>=43 B m_adj(m, -todrop); B- #else B- /* XXX work around m_adj bug */ B- if (m->m_len) { B- m_adj(m, -todrop); B- } else { B- /* skip tcp/ip header in first mbuf */ B- m_adj(m->m_next, -todrop); B- } B- #endif B ti->ti_len -= todrop; B tiflags &= ~(TH_PUSH|TH_FIN); B } B--- 603,609 ---- B*************** B*** 1290,1323 **** B tp->snd_cwnd = mss; B return (mss); B } B- B- #if BSD<43 B- /* XXX this belongs in netinet/in.c */ B- in_localaddr(in) B- struct in_addr in; B- { B- register u_long i = ntohl(in.s_addr); B- register struct ifnet *ifp; B- register struct sockaddr_in *sin; B- register u_long mask; B- B- if (IN_CLASSA(i)) B- mask = IN_CLASSA_NET; B- else if (IN_CLASSB(i)) B- mask = IN_CLASSB_NET; B- else if (IN_CLASSC(i)) B- mask = IN_CLASSC_NET; B- else B- return (0); B- B- i &= mask; B- for (ifp = ifnet; ifp; ifp = ifp->if_next) { B- if (ifp->if_addr.sa_family != AF_INET) B- continue; B- sin = (struct sockaddr_in *)&ifp->if_addr; B- if ((sin->sin_addr.s_addr & mask) == i) B- return (1); B- } B- return (0); B- } B- #endif B--- 1268,1270 ---- B*** /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_output.c.old Tue Oct 10 22:39:54 1995 B--- /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_output.c Wed May 17 20:18:48 2000 B*************** B*** 9,15 **** B * software without specific prior written permission. This software B * is provided ``as is'' without express or implied warranty. B * B! * @(#)tcp_output.c 7.13.1.4 (Berkeley) 1995/10/10 B */ B B #include "param.h" B--- 9,15 ---- B * software without specific prior written permission. This software B * is provided ``as is'' without express or implied warranty. B * B! * @(#)tcp_output.c 7.13.1.5 (2.11BSD) 2000/5/17 B */ B B #include "param.h" B*************** B*** 390,402 **** B */ B ((struct ip *)ti)->ip_len = sizeof (struct tcpiphdr) + optlen + len; B ((struct ip *)ti)->ip_ttl = ip_defttl; /* XXX */ B- #if BSD>=43 B error = ip_output(m, tp->t_inpcb->inp_options, &tp->t_inpcb->inp_route, B so->so_options & SO_DONTROUTE); B- #else B- error = ip_output(m, (struct mbuf *)0, &tp->t_inpcb->inp_route, B- so->so_options & SO_DONTROUTE); B- #endif B if (error) { B if (error == ENOBUFS) { B tcp_quench(tp->t_inpcb); B--- 390,397 ---- B*** /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_timer.c.old Thu Apr 28 16:25:02 1988 B--- /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_timer.c Wed May 17 20:19:44 2000 B*************** B*** 9,15 **** B * software without specific prior written permission. This software B * is provided ``as is'' without express or implied warranty. B * B! * @(#)tcp_timer.c 7.11.1.2 (Berkeley) 3/16/88 B */ B B #include "param.h" B--- 9,15 ---- B * software without specific prior written permission. This software B * is provided ``as is'' without express or implied warranty. B * B! * @(#)tcp_timer.c 7.11.1.3 (2.11BSD) 2000/5/17 B */ B B #include "param.h" B*************** B*** 178,186 **** B * retransmit times until then. B */ B if (tp->t_rxtshift > TCP_MAXRXTSHIFT / 4) { B- #if BSD>=43 B in_losing(tp->t_inpcb); B- #endif B tp->t_rttvar += (tp->t_srtt >> 2); B tp->t_srtt = 0; B } B--- 178,184 ---- B*** /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_usrreq.c.old Thu Apr 28 16:26:57 1988 B--- /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_usrreq.c Wed May 17 20:20:49 2000 B*************** B*** 9,15 **** B * software without specific prior written permission. This software B * is provided ``as is'' without express or implied warranty. B * B! * @(#)tcp_usrreq.c 7.7.1.2 (Berkeley) 3/16/88 B */ B B #include "param.h" B--- 9,15 ---- B * software without specific prior written permission. This software B * is provided ``as is'' without express or implied warranty. B * B! * @(#)tcp_usrreq.c 7.7.1.3 (2.11BSD) 2000/5/17 B */ B B #include "param.h" B*************** B*** 61,74 **** B int error = 0; B int ostate; B B- #if BSD>=43 B if (req == PRU_CONTROL) B return (in_control(so, (int)m, (caddr_t)nam, B (struct ifnet *)rights)); B- #else B- if (req == PRU_CONTROL) B- return(EOPNOTSUPP); B- #endif B if (rights && rights->m_len) B return (EINVAL); B B--- 61,69 ---- B*************** B*** 317,323 **** B return (error); B } B B- #if BSD>=43 B tcp_ctloutput(op, so, level, optname, mp) B int op; B struct socket *so; B--- 312,317 ---- B*************** B*** 375,381 **** B } B return (error); B } B- #endif B B int tcp_sendspace = 1024*4; B int tcp_recvspace = 1024*4; B--- 369,374 ---- B*** /usr/src/etc/rc.local.old Fri Jan 10 20:54:34 1997 B--- /usr/src/etc/rc.local Wed May 17 21:01:41 2000 B*************** B*** 1,10 **** B #! /bin/sh - B # site-specific startup actions, daemons B B! strings /vmunix | grep UNIX >/tmp/t1 B tail +2 /etc/motd >>/tmp/t1 B mv /tmp/t1 /etc/motd B! chmod 666 /etc/motd B B echo -n starting local daemons: >/dev/console 2>&1 B #if [ $INET = YES -a -f /usr/sbin/timed ]; then B--- 1,10 ---- B #! /bin/sh - B # site-specific startup actions, daemons B B! sysctl -n kern.version | head -1 > /tmp/t1 B tail +2 /etc/motd >>/tmp/t1 B mv /tmp/t1 /etc/motd B! chmod 644 /etc/motd B B echo -n starting local daemons: >/dev/console 2>&1 B #if [ $INET = YES -a -f /usr/sbin/timed ]; then B*** /usr/src/lib/libc/net/named/gethnamadr.c.old Sun Jul 10 18:04:23 1994 B--- /usr/src/lib/libc/net/named/gethnamadr.c Wed May 17 20:22:57 2000 B*************** B*** 11,18 **** B */ B B #if defined(LIBC_SCCS) && !defined(lint) B! static char sccsid[] = "@(#)gethostnamadr.c 6.31.2 (2.11BSD GTE) 6/27/94"; B! #endif /* LIBC_SCCS and not lint */ B B #include <sys/param.h> B #include <sys/socket.h> B--- 11,18 ---- B */ B B #if defined(LIBC_SCCS) && !defined(lint) B! static char sccsid[] = "@(#)gethostnamadr.c 6.31.3 (2.11BSD) 2000/5/17"; B! #endif B B #include <sys/param.h> B #include <sys/socket.h> B*************** B*** 112,120 **** B ap = host_aliases; B host.h_aliases = host_aliases; B hap = h_addr_ptrs; B- #if BSD >= 43 || defined(h_addr) /* new-style hostent structure */ B host.h_addr_list = h_addr_ptrs; B- #endif B haveanswer = 0; B while (--ancount >= 0 && cp < eom) { B if ((n = dn_expand((char *)answer->buf, eom, cp, bp, buflen)) < 0) B--- 112,118 ---- B*************** B*** 190,200 **** B } B if (haveanswer) { B *ap = NULL; B- #if BSD >= 43 || defined(h_addr) /* new-style hostent structure */ B *hap = NULL; B- #else B- host.h_addr = h_addr_ptrs[0]; B- #endif B return (&host); B } else { B h_errno = TRY_AGAIN; B--- 188,194 ---- B*************** B*** 320,328 **** B goto again; B *cp++ = '\0'; B /* THIS STUFF IS INTERNET SPECIFIC */ B- #if BSD >= 43 || defined(h_addr) /* new-style hostent structure */ B host.h_addr_list = host_addrs; B- #endif B host.h_addr = hostaddr; B *((u_long *)host.h_addr) = inet_addr(p); B host.h_length = sizeof (u_long); B--- 314,320 ---- B*** /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_send.c.old Sun Jun 26 17:22:50 1994 B--- /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_send.c Wed May 17 20:27:18 2000 B*************** B*** 11,18 **** B */ B B #if defined(LIBC_SCCS) && !defined(lint) B! static char sccsid[] = "@(#)res_send.c 6.19.1 (Berkeley) 6/27/94"; B! #endif /* LIBC_SCCS and not lint */ B B /* B * Send query to name server and wait for reply. B--- 11,18 ---- B */ B B #if defined(LIBC_SCCS) && !defined(lint) B! static char sccsid[] = "@(#)res_send.c 6.19.2 (2.11BSD) 2000/5/17"; B! #endif B B /* B * Send query to name server and wait for reply. B*************** B*** 28,48 **** B #include <arpa/nameser.h> B #include <resolv.h> B B- extern int errno; B- B static int s = -1; /* socket used for communications */ B static struct sockaddr no_addr; B- B B- #ifndef FD_SET B- #define NFDBITS 32 B- #define FD_SETSIZE 32 B- #define FD_SET(n, p) ((p)->fds_bits[(n)/NFDBITS] |= (1 << ((n) % NFDBITS))) B- #define FD_CLR(n, p) ((p)->fds_bits[(n)/NFDBITS] &= ~(1 << ((n) % NFDBITS))) B- #define FD_ISSET(n, p) ((p)->fds_bits[(n)/NFDBITS] & (1 << ((n) % NFDBITS))) B- #define FD_ZERO(p) bzero((char *)(p), sizeof(*(p))) B- #endif B- B #define KEEPOPEN (RES_USEVC|RES_STAYOPEN) B B res_send(buf, buflen, answer, anslen) B--- 28,36 ---- B*************** B*** 199,205 **** B */ B if (s < 0) B s = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, 0); B- #if BSD >= 43 B if (_res.nscount == 1 || retry == _res.retry) { B /* B * Don't use connect if we might B--- 187,192 ---- B*************** B*** 224,233 **** B #endif DEBUG B continue; B } B! } else B! #endif BSD B! if (sendto(s, buf, buflen, 0, &_res.nsaddr_list[ns], B! sizeof(struct sockaddr)) != buflen) { B #ifdef DEBUG B if (_res.options & RES_DEBUG) B perror("sendto"); B--- 211,218 ---- B #endif DEBUG B continue; B } B! } else if (sendto(s,buf,buflen,0,&_res.nsaddr_list[ns], B! sizeof(struct sockaddr)) != buflen) { B #ifdef DEBUG B if (_res.options & RES_DEBUG) B perror("sendto"); B*** /usr/src/ucb/netstat/inet.c.old Sun Aug 28 10:53:19 1994 B--- /usr/src/ucb/netstat/inet.c Wed May 17 20:29:47 2000 B*************** B*** 11,17 **** B */ B B #if defined(DOSCCS) && !defined(lint) B! static char sccsid[] = "@(#)inet.c 5.9.3 (2.11BSD GTE) 8/28/94"; B #endif B B #include <strings.h> B--- 11,17 ---- B */ B B #if defined(DOSCCS) && !defined(lint) B! static char sccsid[] = "@(#)inet.c 5.9.4 (2.11BSD) 2000/5/17"; B #endif B B #include <strings.h> B*************** B*** 243,252 **** B return; B klseek(kmem, off, 0); B read(kmem, (char *)&ipstat, sizeof (ipstat)); B- #if BSD>=43 B printf("%s:\n\t%lu total packets received\n", name, B ipstat.ips_total); B- #endif B printf("\t%lu bad header checksum%s\n", B ipstat.ips_badsum, plural(ipstat.ips_badsum)); B printf("\t%lu with size smaller than minimum\n", ipstat.ips_toosmall); B--- 243,250 ---- B*************** B*** 253,259 **** B printf("\t%lu with data size < data length\n", ipstat.ips_tooshort); B printf("\t%lu with header length < data size\n", ipstat.ips_badhlen); B printf("\t%lu with data length < header length\n", ipstat.ips_badlen); B- #if BSD>=43 B printf("\t%lu fragment%s received\n", B ipstat.ips_fragments, plural(ipstat.ips_fragments)); B printf("\t%lu fragment%s dropped (dup or out of space)\n", B--- 251,256 ---- B*************** B*** 266,272 **** B ipstat.ips_cantforward, plural(ipstat.ips_cantforward)); B printf("\t%lu redirect%s sent\n", B ipstat.ips_redirectsent, plural(ipstat.ips_redirectsent)); B- #endif B } B B static char *icmpnames[] = { B--- 263,268 ---- B*** /usr/src/ucb/rlogin/rlogin.c.old Wed May 7 19:45:04 1997 B--- /usr/src/ucb/rlogin/rlogin.c Wed May 17 20:44:43 2000 B*************** B*** 9,15 **** B "@(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California.\n\ B All rights reserved.\n"; B B! static char sccsid[] = "@(#)rlogin.c 5.10.1 (2.11BSD) 1997/3/28"; B #endif B B /* B--- 9,15 ---- B "@(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California.\n\ B All rights reserved.\n"; B B! static char sccsid[] = "@(#)rlogin.c 5.10.2 (2.11BSD) 2000/5/17"; B #endif B B /* B*************** B*** 28,33 **** B--- 28,35 ---- B #include <errno.h> B #include <pwd.h> B #include <signal.h> B+ #include <string.h> B+ #include <stdlib.h> B #include <setjmp.h> B #include <netdb.h> B B*************** B*** 35,42 **** B # define TIOCPKT_WINDOW 0x80 B # endif TIOCPKT_WINDOW B B- char *index(), *rindex(), *malloc(), *getenv(); B- struct passwd *getpwuid(); B char *name; B int rem; B char cmdchar = '~'; B--- 37,42 ---- B*************** B*** 46,66 **** B { "0", "50", "75", "110", "134", "150", "200", "300", B "600", "1200", "1800", "2400", "4800", "9600", "19200", "38400" }; B char term[256] = "network"; B- extern int errno; B int lostpeer(); B int dosigwinch = 0; B- #ifndef sigmask B- #define sigmask(m) (1L << ((m)-1)) B- #endif B- #ifdef sun B- struct ttysize winsize; B- struct winsize { B- unsigned short ws_row, ws_col; B- unsigned short ws_xpixel, ws_ypixel; B- }; B- #else sun B struct winsize winsize; B- #endif sun B int sigwinch(), oob(); B B main(argc, argv) B--- 46,54 ---- B*************** B*** 132,142 **** B strcat(term, "/"); B strcat(term, speeds[ttyb.sg_ospeed]); B } B- #ifdef sun B- (void) ioctl(0, TIOCGSIZE, &winsize); B- #else sun B (void) ioctl(0, TIOCGWINSZ, &winsize); B- #endif sun B signal(SIGPIPE, lostpeer); B signal(SIGURG, oob); B oldmask = sigblock(sigmask(SIGURG)); B--- 120,126 ---- B*************** B*** 177,183 **** B doit(oldmask) B long oldmask; B { B- int exit(); B struct sgttyb sb; B B ioctl(0, TIOCGETP, (char *)&sb); B--- 161,166 ---- B*************** B*** 349,369 **** B sigwinch(); /* check for size changes */ B } B B- #ifdef sun B sigwinch() B { B- struct ttysize ws; B- B- if (dosigwinch && ioctl(0, TIOCGSIZE, &ws) == 0 && B- bcmp(&ws, &winsize, sizeof (ws))) { B- winsize = ws; B- sendwindow(); B- } B- } B- B- #else sun B- sigwinch() B- { B struct winsize ws; B B if (dosigwinch && ioctl(0, TIOCGWINSZ, &ws) == 0 && B--- 332,339 ---- B*************** B*** 372,378 **** B sendwindow(); B } B } B- #endif B B /* B * Send the window size to the server via the magic escape B--- 342,347 ---- B*************** B*** 386,402 **** B obuf[1] = 0377; B obuf[2] = 's'; B obuf[3] = 's'; B- #ifdef sun B- wp->ws_row = htons(winsize.ts_lines); B- wp->ws_col = htons(winsize.ts_cols); B- wp->ws_xpixel = 0; B- wp->ws_ypixel = 0; B- #else sun B wp->ws_row = htons(winsize.ws_row); B wp->ws_col = htons(winsize.ws_col); B wp->ws_xpixel = htons(winsize.ws_xpixel); B wp->ws_ypixel = htons(winsize.ws_ypixel); B- #endif sun B (void) write(rem, obuf, sizeof(obuf)); B } B B--- 355,364 ---- B*************** B*** 506,516 **** B */ B reader() B { B- #if !defined(BSD) || BSD < 43 B- int pid = -getpid(); B- #else B int pid = getpid(); B- #endif B int n, remaining; B char *bufp = rcvbuf; B B--- 468,474 ---- B*** /usr/src/ucb/Makefile.old Fri Jun 27 19:50:46 1997 B--- /usr/src/ucb/Makefile Wed May 17 20:32:16 2000 B*************** B*** 3,9 **** B # All rights reserved. The Berkeley software License Agreement B # specifies the terms and conditions for redistribution. B # B! # @(#)Makefile 5.17.4 (2.11BSD GTE) 1997/6/27 B # B DESTDIR= B CFLAGS= -O B--- 3,9 ---- B # All rights reserved. The Berkeley software License Agreement B # specifies the terms and conditions for redistribution. B # B! # @(#)Makefile 5.17.5 (2.11BSD) 2000/5/17 B # B DESTDIR= B CFLAGS= -O B*************** B*** 12,18 **** B # Programs that live in subdirectories, and have makefiles of their own. B # B SUBDIR= Mail compress dbx error ex finger fp ftp indent lock man \ B! more msgs netstat pascal rdist sendbug talk tftp \ B tn3270 tset vgrind vlp window B B # Shell scripts that need only be installed and are never removed. B--- 12,18 ---- B # Programs that live in subdirectories, and have makefiles of their own. B # B SUBDIR= Mail compress dbx error ex finger fp ftp indent lock man \ B! more msgs netstat pascal rdist rlogin sendbug talk tftp \ B tn3270 tset vgrind vlp window B B # Shell scripts that need only be installed and are never removed. B*************** B*** 34,40 **** B B # Programs that must run setuid to root B # B! SETUID= quota rlogin rsh B B # Programs that must run set-group-id kmem. B # B--- 34,40 ---- B B # Programs that must run setuid to root B # B! SETUID= quota rsh B B # Programs that must run set-group-id kmem. B # B*** /usr/src/share/me/tmac.e.old Mon Oct 21 20:50:21 1996 B--- /usr/src/share/me/tmac.e Fri Oct 13 19:56:55 2000 B*************** B*** 1045,1051 **** B .if \n(dw=5 .ds dw Thursday B .if \n(dw=6 .ds dw Friday B .if \n(dw=7 .ds dw Saturday B! .ds td \*(mo \n(dy, 19\n(yr B .\" *** PARAMETRIC INITIALIZATIONS *** B .if (1m<0.1i)&(\nx!=0) \ B . vs 9p \" for 12-pitch DTC terminals B--- 1045,1052 ---- B .if \n(dw=5 .ds dw Thursday B .if \n(dw=6 .ds dw Friday B .if \n(dw=7 .ds dw Saturday B! .nr *y \n(yr+1900 B! .ds td \*(mo \n(dy, \n(*y B .\" *** PARAMETRIC INITIALIZATIONS *** B .if (1m<0.1i)&(\nx!=0) \ B . vs 9p \" for 12-pitch DTC terminals B*** /usr/src/share/tmac/tmac.s.old Mon Oct 21 20:30:44 1996 B--- /usr/src/share/tmac/tmac.s Mon Oct 9 20:37:30 2000 B*************** B*** 934,940 **** B .if \n(mo-9 .ds MO October B .if \n(mo-10 .ds MO November B .if \n(mo-11 .ds MO December B! .ds DY \*(MO \n(dy, 19\n(yr B .nr * 0 1 B .IZ B .em EM B--- 934,942 ---- B .if \n(mo-9 .ds MO October B .if \n(mo-10 .ds MO November B .if \n(mo-11 .ds MO December B! .nr *y \n(yr+1900 B! .ds DY \*(MO \n(dy, \n(*y B! .ie B .nr * 0 1 B .IZ B .em EM B*** /usr/src/share/tmac/tmac.an.new.old Thu Oct 31 22:18:00 1996 B--- /usr/src/share/tmac/tmac.an.new Wed Oct 11 23:17:45 2000 B*************** B*** 20,30 **** B .if "\nm"10" .ds ]m November B .if "\nm"11" .ds ]m December B ' # set the date B .if n \{.nr m \nm+1 B! . ie \nd .ds ]W Modified \nm/\nd/\ny B! . el .ds ]W Printed \n(mo/\n(dy/\n(yr\} B! .if t \{.ie \nd .ds ]W \*(]m \nd, 19\ny B! . el .ds ]W \*(]m \n(dy, 19\n(yr\} B .if t .tr *\(** B .ie n \{\ B . ds lq \&"\" B--- 20,35 ---- B .if "\nm"10" .ds ]m November B .if "\nm"11" .ds ]m December B ' # set the date B+ .nr )y \n(yr-100 B+ .ie \n(yr<100 .ds ]Y \n(yr B+ .el .ds ]Y 0\n()y B+ ' B+ .nr )Y \n(yr+1900 B .if n \{.nr m \nm+1 B! . ie \nd .ds ]W Modified \nm/\nd/\*(]Y B! . el .ds ]W Printed \n(mo/\n(dy/\*(]Y\} B! .if t \{.ie \nd .ds ]W \*(]m \nd, \n()Y B! . el .ds ]W \*(]m \n(dy, \n()Y\} B .if t .tr *\(** B .ie n \{\ B . ds lq \&"\" B*** /VERSION.old Fri Apr 21 20:38:04 2000 B--- /VERSION Wed May 17 21:02:26 2000 B*************** B*** 1,5 **** B! Current Patch Level: 431 B! Date: April 21, 2000 B B 2.11 BSD B ============ B--- 1,5 ---- B! Current Patch Level: 432 B! Date: May 17, 2000 B B 2.11 BSD B ============ SHAR_EOF chmod 644 '432.patch' fi exit 0 # End of shell archive

23 years, 8 months

Silicon Valley TUHS People

by Matthew Whitehead

Does anybody on this list reside in Silicon Valley like myself and have access to surplus PDP-11 or early Vax hardware? I've gotten a good deal of the 'ancient unix' software going on the Supnik emulator (it's great!), but now I want to get an actual PDP-11/70 or 11/45 going (perhaps a Vax 11/780 or 11/750). Yeah, I know the actual power usage for such a beastie averages around 6000W, but I won't run it all the time. :-) Lists of hardware suplus places known to carry such stuff greatly appreciated, but it has to be close. I don't want to get clobbered with a huge shipping bill. - Matthew

23 years, 8 months

[pups] Re: Searching for 8" DSDD drive

by Jason T. Miller

I should be able to read them, although I admit I am far from Delaware. Not far from a mailbox, though. I can do raw reads and RT-11 filesystems from both RX01 and RX02 on my PC, although I tend to simply do raw reads and use RT or RSX on the Supnik emulator, write a virtual tape, then parse the tape out with a C routine or Perl script (trivial), to extract files from PDP FSes. DS/DD shouldn't be an issue, although software interleaving can be a pain (RX50s have this problem. I've always wondered what the justification for not putting the correct sector numbers in the address area of the sector was!). Sincerely, Jason T. Miller Shaffstall Support and Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Shaffstall Corporation 317-842-2077 ext. 302 Conversion, Duplication, and Network Services jasomill(a)shaffstall.com

23 years, 8 months

RE: [pups] Searching for 8" DSDD drive

by SHOPPA＠trailing-edge.com

>we are looking for someone with access to a working 8" DSDD floppy >disk drive, presumably running RT or RSX on the PDP system. This is >to retrieve some very interesting historic material regarding the >Internet. As some of you may know, the IMP's in the 1980s, or fuzzball >systems, were running PDPs. You need more than just the drive - you need a compatible controller. While most floppy systems were DEC-compatible in SSSD and SSDD modes (RX01 and RX02), the DEC RX03 (DSDD) was never released and as a result there are literally dozens of not-quite-compatible DSDD floppy systems. When the low-level format agrees, you'll discover that the interleaving doesn't! (And there are a lot more choices with regards to interleaving when you've got two sides...) If you can clue us in as to the make and model of the writing controller, it'd help a lot. >The actual floppies to be read are in Delaware, anyone close there >would be a big bonus. I'm sure I've got a couple dozen not-quite-compatible DSDD systems here in DC :-). Tim.

23 years, 8 months

[pups] Searching for 8" DSDD drive

by Joerg Micheel

Hi PDP owners, we are looking for someone with access to a working 8" DSDD floppy disk drive, presumably running RT or RSX on the PDP system. This is to retrieve some very interesting historic material regarding the Internet. As some of you may know, the IMP's in the 1980s, or fuzzball systems, were running PDPs. The actual floppies to be read are in Delaware, anyone close there would be a big bonus. Thank you. Joerg -- Joerg B. Micheel Email: <joerg(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz> WAND and NLANR MOAT Email: <joerg(a)nlanr.net> The University of Waikato, CompScience Phone: +64 7 8384794 Private Bag 3105 Fax: +64 7 8585095 Hamilton, New Zealand Plan: PMA, TINE and the DAG's

23 years, 8 months

[pups] Trouble with 2.11BSD and CQD-220

by Chuck Dickman

I have a QBus SCSI disk controller (Horray!) and it is working fine. Except... I cannot get it to boot directly from the SCSI drive. More detail.... The processor is an 11/73 and the SCSI controller is a CMD CQD-220 with a Fujitsu 220MB drive. The CQD-220 is set as the primary MSCP controller and an RQDX3 with an RX50 drive as the secondary MSCP controller. I have placed rauboot from 2.11BSD on the SCSI drive and on a floppy. I can boot fine from the floppy, but not from the SCSI drive. The floppy loads boot and then from there .: ra(0,0,0)unix boots unix from the SCSI drive. When booting from the SCSI drive, the boot sector is loaded into memory and then relocated. It hangs waiting for the MSCP controller to respond. I have not diagnosed it to the command that hangs. Is anybody else booting 2.11BSD directly from a drive attached to a CQD-220? -chuck

23 years, 8 months

[pups] Re: PUPS digest, Vol 1 #5 - 3 msgs

by Jay Jaeger

Bill Gunshannon wrote: > What are the odds that a 15 year old tape is even readable today?? I know > when I found the original BSD tapes here even with their being stored in the > computer room, they were unreadable. You might be surprised. PUPS has Mini-Unix because I was able to read a 15 year old tape a few years back. I can still read a copy of the V6 distribution that was made in the late 1970's. Recently I read thru all the 9 track tapes I had, and only one of them had errors. Many were well over 10 years old. And Paul Pierce managed to put together a usable image of the IBM PR155 O/S for the IBM 1410 by reading 2 7 track tapes that were pushing 30. Jay Jaeger --- Jay R. Jaeger The Computer Collection cube1(a)home.com visit http://members.home.net/thecomputercollection

23 years, 8 months

[pups] Scanning old Unix manuals in

by Warren Toomey

In article by martin lovick: > Hi, > > I've read the FAQ and it mentioned the earlier versions of the [Unix manuals] > being scanned and ocr'd..... Has any progress been made with this? > > regards > Martin Lovick Well, both Norman and I were going to do it. Because Dennis found the 3rd and 4th Edition manuals in electronic format, now we are only missing the 2nd and 5th Edition manuals. I made an abortive start before I left my job in July, and I haven't got back to it. So, no real progress at this stage. Warren

23 years, 8 months

Re: [pups] The Software Tools Virtual Operating System

by Bill Gunshannon

On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, David C. Jenner wrote: > Bill, > > I can assure you that what you were pointed to at the Ken Yap's Links > is what you are seeking. It may not be the final version, but it is > essentially what I received on a tape 20 years ago. There's even some > later material circa 1983, which postdated what I had, in the "Toys" file. Hmmmm. I'm beginning to think as it neared the end and interest trailed off much of the work did not get rolled back in to the base distribution. My last experience was around 84-85 and it was a package from GA Tech that ranon the Prime 50 series minis. It was alot like using Eunice on a VAX/VMS system. A quick scan of the stuff from Ken Yap found no mention of a number of systems that were known to exist by that time. No PDP-11, no Prime, some mention of the VAX, no mention of Unix (don't ask me why, but the VOS was ported to Unix!!). I guess what I need to do is see what systems are supported in what I have and try to get a system up again to check out. > > I probably still have the tape, but, it's 20 years old, hasn't been > used for at least 15 years, who knows what condition it's in, and it's > not much different than the content on the Web. What are the odds that a 15 year old tape is even readable today?? I know when I found the original BSD tapes here even with their being stored in the computer room, they were unreadable. > > You must realize, I guess, that you aren't getting a complete operating > system when you speak of STVOS, but just a ratfor translator and sources > for lots of Unix-like utilities. And primitives to translate between the host OS and the VOS API. > You need to supply a Fortran compiler > and operating system on which to build this. And many were supported. I was hoping to find enough of them to have a good example of what problems were run into doing the ports. Can go a long way in helping with other porting efforts. And because the API is very Unix-like it offers some intersting possibilities for expansion. > The idea was to make a > highly-portable set of software development tools and utilities that > could be ported and used across many OSes, thus making what you develop > available across many OSes. There is no OS (i.e., resource management, > file system, etc.) included. True. But a common API with hooks into a number of very different OSes. > > What you refer to in your emails about VOS bears little resemblance > to the STVOS, because STVOS wasn't an OS. Probably depends on your definition of OS. It was an ambitious project at the time and an idea whose time may just now be coming into vogue. > Today's VOSes, like a Java > machine, are at least one step beyond the STVOS. Again, I am not sure I agree. To me the Java VM is just the UCSD P-machine warmed over. One of the reasons things like the P-Machine and VOSes didn't fly 20 years ago was performance. We were trying to wring every last bit (no pun intended!) of performance out of our hardware. We frequently still did a lot of our programming in assembler (I was doing things like Prime 50-series and Univac-1100 assembler and almost anything on a micro was either complete or heavily laced with assembler, LSI-11, Z80, M68K.) Today, for all intents and purposes we have cpu cycles to burn. Look at the popularity of hardware emulators. E11, Charon VAX, SIMH. And people talking about how these emulators outperform the real hardware and could easily be used as production systems. Maybe it's time to look into reviving some of these ideas, but hopefully, not with a return to the beginning and a total re- invention of the wheel. > > You might want to establish what the final date of release of STVOS > was to determine what the final version was. As I recall, it wasn't > too much later than 1981. (The Toys tape is 1983.) Somewhere I have > a pile of old newsletters that would have the answer, but they're > boxed away in storage. I won't be able to dig for them for another > month. I know the Prime version was still available until the mid 80's. but much of this may have been independant work as STUG may have already faded into the background. I guess the thing that bothers me the most is not wether or not this can be turned into something usable, but the fact that what was an impressive work for the time it was done has been allowed to all but disappear. Maybe I'm getting maudlin in my old age. :-) I appreciate everyone's help and as I said previously, it makes me appreciate even more the work of Warren and PUPS and Tim Shoppa as well. All the best. bill -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves bill(a)cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton | Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>

23 years, 8 months

Re: [pups] The Software Tools Virtual Operating System

by SHOPPA＠trailing-edge.com

>> ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/rsx11freewarev2/rsx81a/ > Thanks for the pointer. I was aware of the RSX version that was contained >in the DECUS library. But there really was quite a bit more to the whole >distribution than that. Can you educate us about what is missing? If you can clue me in as to a specific file name or a specific text string that might be in a missing file, I'll gladly search through the few tens of gigabytes of images I've got here. Tim.

23 years, 8 months

RE: [TUHS] Disk Drivers

by Ian King

I can speak to the v6 stuff, and I think the same applies to the v7 stuff: the bootable image rkunix is intended to allow you to get a system booted from an RK05 (on which you've presumably installed this image), so that you can rebuild the system to suit your hardware. There is some special stuff in v6 for the PDP-40, so presumably the rkunix.40 image addresses that. The 'unix' image is the image one customarily boots to use the system; it's probably the image from the system on which the image was originally built all those years ago, and is intended to be replaced by your new image. Presumably, the drivers in that image might be identified if the c.c and l.c files are still present in /usr/sys. I don't know whether Bob Supnik actually built these images, or (as I suspect) included them from e.g. the PUPS site. Regarding the v7 stuff, I think you'll find considerable information in the v7 setup docs on the PUPS website, as to which corresponds to what drives (although it's somewhat self-explanatory). Hope that's helpful -- Ian -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Whitehead [mailto:matthew.whitehead@apple.com] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 12:59 PM To: TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org Subject: [TUHS] Disk Drivers I'm getting a tad frustrated with the otherwise excellent Supnik PDP-11 emulators. Can anyone tell me (or give me the adb commands to figure it out myself) what disk device drivers are present in the bootable disk images that come with the Supnik simulator? The versions I'm interested are: V6 image: - rkunix (rk) - rkunix.40 (rk, PDP-11/40 cpu?) - unix V7 image: - hphtunix (hp) - hptmunix (hp) - rkunix (rk) - rl2unix (obviously hacked to include rl driver) - rphtunix (rp) - rptmunix (rp) Matthew (mrw(a)apple.com) _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs

23 years, 8 months

[pups] [TUHS] Disk Drivers (fwd)

by Warren Toomey

[Forwarded to the PUPS list, as this is PDP-11 specific - Warren] Your best bets are: - Use nm on the kernel if it hasn't been stripped - Or go to /usr/sys/conf if you have the sources, and look at the config files for each kernel, e.g rptmunix came from rptmconf, which has: rp root rp 1 swap rp 2 swplo 0 nswap 2000 tm Cheers, Warren ----- Forwarded message from Matthew Whitehead ----- From: Matthew Whitehead <matthew.whitehead(a)apple.com> Subject: [TUHS] Disk Drivers Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 12:58:54 -0800 I'm getting a tad frustrated with the otherwise excellent Supnik PDP-11 emulators. Can anyone tell me (or give me the adb commands to figure it out myself) what disk device drivers are present in the bootable disk images that come with the Supnik simulator? The versions I'm interested are: V6 image: - rkunix (rk) - rkunix.40 (rk, PDP-11/40 cpu?) - unix V7 image: - hphtunix (hp) - hptmunix (hp) - rkunix (rk) - rl2unix (obviously hacked to include rl driver) - rphtunix (rp) - rptmunix (rp) Matthew (mrw(a)apple.com) ----- End of forwarded message from Matthew Whitehead -----

23 years, 8 months

Disk Drivers

by Matthew Whitehead

I'm getting a tad frustrated with the otherwise excellent Supnik PDP-11 emulators. Can anyone tell me (or give me the adb commands to figure it out myself) what disk device drivers are present in the bootable disk images that come with the Supnik simulator? The versions I'm interested are: V6 image: - rkunix (rk) - rkunix.40 (rk, PDP-11/40 cpu?) - unix V7 image: - hphtunix (hp) - hptmunix (hp) - rkunix (rk) - rl2unix (obviously hacked to include rl driver) - rphtunix (rp) - rptmunix (rp) Matthew (mrw(a)apple.com)

23 years, 8 months

Re: [pups] The Software Tools Virtual Operating System

by SHOPPA＠trailing-edge.com

>I know this is somewhat off topic, but there is a connection. > >I am trying to track down a copy of the distribution of: > The Software Tools Virtual Operating System > >The last known repository of the complete system was apparently USENIX. >They have been unable to find a copy anywhere up to this point, so I'm >asking here as there must be many long time members in this group. > >Does anyone still have a copy of this and could I possibly get it?? >I really need to find a copy for a project I want to work on. Point yourself towards ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/rsx11freewarev2/rsx81a/ In the 30703* directories you will find: [307,30] TOOLGEN.CMD, the command file for building the LBL Software Tools Virtual Operating System. The release notes for the VOS are also contained in this UIC. [307,31] Fortran and macro sources for VOS. [307,32] Manual entries for VOS utilities. [307,33] Ratfor source files for VOS utilities. [307,34] Source files for variable-length send/receive driver. [307,35] Source files for virtual aether driver. Tim.

23 years, 8 months

[pups] The Software Tools Virtual Operating System

by Bill Gunshannon

I know this is somewhat off topic, but there is a connection. I am trying to track down a copy of the distribution of: The Software Tools Virtual Operating System The last known repository of the complete system was apparently USENIX. They have been unable to find a copy anywhere up to this point, so I'm asking here as there must be many long time members in this group. Does anyone still have a copy of this and could I possibly get it?? I really need to find a copy for a project I want to work on. Any help would be greatly appreciated. bill -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves bill(a)cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton | Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>

23 years, 8 months

Re: Obtaining Ancient Licenses from Caldera

by Warren Toomey

In article by Jonathan Engdahl: > I sold a PDP-11/23 with 2.9BSD on it, and directed the buyer to the Caldera > page below. The license page is there, but when you click "accept", the link > is broken. Both he and I emailed Caldera about the problem. We'll see what > happens. > > Is there any backup plan for licensing if Caldera doesn't come through? Yes, just go to http://www.tuhs.org/archive_access.html, I've given up on referrals from SCO or Caldera for now. Warren

23 years, 8 months

[pups] Re: Free UNIX licenses

by Warren Toomey

In article by Jonathan Engdahl: > It looks like the SCO free UNIX license page moved: > http://shop.caldera.com/caldera/ancient.html > > I hope Caldera continues the free license policy. Thanks for the heads-up Johnathan. It looks like the license is unchanged, so for now we're ok. But I should contact someone there & see if we can open it up a bit more :) Warren

23 years, 8 months

[PUPS] Change of PUPS Mail-list software

by Warren Toomey

All, I'm thinking of switching from Majordomo to Mailman for the mailing lists run on minnie.tuhs.org. I thought I'd try it out on the PUPS mailing list to start with, because it is so quiet, and also to maybe get some postings going again. Mailman has several advantages: - list archives are created and have a web interface - subscribers can easily change their details - list management can also be done via the web. You can go to http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/pups to use the web interface to change your subscription. If things don't seem to be working, please let me know at my e-mail address of wkt(a)tuhs.org Cheers, Warren

23 years, 9 months

[pups] KXJ11-CA / M7616 doc wanted.

by jkunz＠unixag-kl.fh-kl.de

Hi. I have this nice KXJ11-CA but I have no clue how to use it. I was able to get to the ODT prompt, but nothing else. I need pinouts, jumper descriptions, memory map (where are the EPROMs?), ... How to use that digital IO port? ... My idea is to use it in a my MicroVAX 4000-200 with the VAX as "frontend processor". So I would be able to run NetBSD/vax and perhaps 2.9BSD in the same box. -- tschüß, Jochen Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/

23 years, 9 months

[pups] A 2nd http mirror of the Unix Archive

by Warren Toomey

All, Oleg Safiullin has set up a Unix Archive mirror outside of Australia. You can find it at: http://unix-archive.pdp11.org.ru He is using the same username & password list as www.tuhs.org is. Thanks to Oleg for setting this up. Warren P.S I do have a number of other people interested in setting up other mirrors. When I get back from this week's conference, I'll contact you all. Return-Path: <owner-pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org> Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.tuhs.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8R5Wfi62530 for pups-liszt; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 15:32:41 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org) Received: (from wkt@localhost) by minnie.tuhs.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8R5WbZ62518; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 15:32:37 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from wkt) From: Warren Toomey <wkt(a)minnie.tuhs.org> Message-Id: <200109270532.f8R5WbZ62518(a)minnie.tuhs.org> Subject: [pups] A 2nd http mirror of the Unix Archive To: tuhs(a)tuhs.org, pups(a)tuhs.org Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 15:32:37 +1000 (EST) Reply-To: wkt(a)tuhs.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org Precedence: bulk All, Oleg Safiullin has set up a Unix Archive mirror outside of Australia. You can find it at: http://unix-archive.pdp11.org.ru He is using the same username & password list as www.tuhs.org is. Thanks to Oleg for setting this up. Warren P.S I do have a number of other people interested in setting up other mirrors. When I get back from this week's conference, I'll contact you all.

23 years, 9 months

[pups] BSD 2.11 SL/IP and sim2.3d+BB1

by PUP

I know that there must be some setup guides for BSD2.11 still floating around there, but I have not been able to find anything.. Here is what I am trying to do: I noticed that the sim2.3d+BB1 emulator will allow you to connect Unix "devices" to the DL1 lines. I set it to connect the serial port on my Linux box, and connected a IBM 3151 (VT100 like terminal), and it worked great! Taking this a step further, I took the serial port and moved it to my Cisco router (the aux port).. I have been trying to configure SL/IP on it.. I first setup my Linux box to connect to the router via slip so that I can verify my cisco config. I am having trouble on the BSD side.. As far as I can tell it is not routing replys over the sl0 interface.. (Or the emulator is cooking the serial data...) A final test I tried to connect to copies of sim2.3d+BB1 via pty's.. same thing. The good part is when you try to telnet from the router, you can see the socket accept on the BSD side.. The BSD box seems not to reply.. Additionally I saw some stuff on increasing the size of CBLOCK in param.h (my default was 32, I tried 64), which seemed to have no effect. I started SL/IP by running slattach ttyl1 9600 then ifconfig sl0 10.1.1.1 10.1.1.2 up by default as this I can't ping the 10.1.1.1 (my side).. so I added a route route add 10.1.1.1 127.0.0.1 0 I don't know if I have to do this... Oh the image that I'm using is the 2.11_rp_unknown from the archive.. (It has a note that it is patch level 400.) Also the person that maintains BSD 2.11's site is down.. bummer.. Sorry for the rambling! Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.tuhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA96454 for pups-liszt; Thu, 17 May 2001 14:04:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au) >From "Steven M. Schultz" <sms(a)moe.2bsd.com> Thu May 17 13:52:31 2001 Received: from moe.2bsd.com (MOE.2BSD.COM [206.139.202.200]) by minnie.tuhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA96450 for <pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au>; Thu, 17 May 2001 14:04:12 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sms(a)moe.2bsd.com) Received: (from sms@localhost) by moe.2bsd.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f4H3qVx16950 for pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au; Wed, 16 May 2001 20:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 20:52:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Steven M. Schultz" <sms(a)moe.2bsd.com> Message-Id: <200105170352.f4H3qVx16950(a)moe.2bsd.com> To: pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Subject: Re: [pups] BSD 2.11 SL/IP and sim2.3d+BB1 Sender: owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk > From: PUP <jstevep(a)tron.superglobalmegacorp.com> I've taken the liberty of adding <\n> characters - something about 1k character lines bugs me ;) > I know that there must be some setup guides for BSD2.11 still floating > around there, but I have not been able to find anything.. Here is what I /usr/doc/2.10/setup.2.11 bit of a misnomer and it's a long enough story I won't bother anyone with the details. That's the raw troff sources though. If it's the formatted version that is wanted there should be a copy in the 2.11 portion of the PUPS/TUHS section of the archive. It shows up at PDP-11/Distributions/ucb/2.11BSD and there are also complete tarballs and a dump of the root filesystem all at rev level 431. It should be a simple matter of putting the bits on tape/disk (using the makesimtape or similar utility provided with the emulator being used). At that point the normal 2.11 installation process can be followed - there have only been 5 updates since then (432 thru 436) so catching up wouldn't be hard at all. > I noticed that the sim2.3d+BB1 emulator will allow you to connect Unix > "devices" to the DL1 lines. I set it to connect the serial port on my Linux > box, and connected a IBM 3151 (VT100 like terminal), and it worked great! Probably doing 7E1 and just about anything would work with that ;) > Taking this a step further, I took the serial port and moved it to my Cisco > router (the aux port).. I have been trying to configure SL/IP on it.. That'll definitely require a 'raw' or 8bit clean path and I don't know if the sim2.3d does that or not - never tried it. The stock sim2.3d doesn't appear to have extra serial line support - or if it does it isn't obvious. Perhaps that is what the BB1 part is about. > I first setup my Linux box to connect to the router via slip so that I can > verify my cisco config. I am having trouble on the BSD side.. As far as I > can tell it is not routing replys over the sl0 interface.. (Or the emulator > is cooking the serial data...) That's a real possibility. The 'slattach' command on the 11 side will take care of setting all the modes so that an 8bit path is obtained. If the emulator is stripping the parity bit (which wouldn't show up in the normal "hook a terminal up" test) then SL/IP will obviously have problems. You might have better luck with the Begemot emulator P11. No need for SL/IP since P11 has an emulated DEQNA ethernet driver. > A final test I tried to connect to copies of sim2.3d+BB1 via pty's.. same > thing. The good part is when you try to telnet from the router, you can see > the socket accept on the BSD side.. The BSD box seems not to reply.. > Additionally I saw some stuff on increasing the size of CBLOCK in param.h > (my default was 32, I tried 64), which seemed to have no effect. I'd not muck about with CBLOCK - it doesn't really buy much and from the sounds of things aren't getting anywhere near the conditions that comment was aimed at. > I started SL/IP by running > slattach ttyl1 9600 > then > ifconfig sl0 10.1.1.1 10.1.1.2 up That should be all that's necessary > by default as this I can't ping the 10.1.1.1 (my side).. so I added a route > > route add 10.1.1.1 127.0.0.1 0 > I don't know if I have to do this... You shouldn't have to do that because in /etc/netstart, if things are set up right you would have: slattach ttyl1 9600 ifconfig sl0 10.1.1.1 10.1.1.2 up route add $hostname localhost 0 route add default $default 1 So if 'hostname' and 'default' are set at the top of the file all the routing is all set to go. Just make sure that 'ifconfig sl0' happens before 'ifconfig lo0 ...'. Also, by default the C library is compiled to use DNS resolver routines so it will likely be necessary to use a combination of numeric IP addresses and entries in /etc/hosts > Oh the image that I'm using is the 2.11_rp_unknown from the archive.. > (It has a note that it is patch level 400.) That is fairly old, but SL/IP hasn't changed since the system came out eons ago. > Also the person that maintains BSD 2.11's site is down.. bummer.. It has _never_ been down except for a reboot the other day to install another 512MB of memory a week or so ago. With a 1400VA UPS the system can ride out most of the power problems California's having. If the FTP site here is unreachable you might try going to the mirror at FTP.TO.GD-ES.COM - all the updates are in /pub/2.11BSD Steven Schultz sms(a)moe.2bsd.com Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.tuhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA96508 for pups-liszt; Thu, 17 May 2001 14:11:44 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au) >From Warren Toomey <wkt(a)henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> Thu May 17 14:00:06 2001 Received: from henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (henry.cs.adfa.edu.au [131.236.21.158]) by minnie.tuhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA96503 for <pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au>; Thu, 17 May 2001 14:11:41 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from wkt(a)henry.cs.adfa.edu.au) Received: (from wkt@localhost) by henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f4H406m51958; Thu, 17 May 2001 14:00:06 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from wkt) From: Warren Toomey <wkt(a)henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> Message-Id: <200105170400.f4H406m51958(a)henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> Subject: Re: [pups] BSD 2.11 SL/IP and sim2.3d+BB1 In-Reply-To: <200105170352.f4H3qVx16950(a)moe.2bsd.com> from "Steven M. Schultz" at "May 16, 2001 08:52:31 pm" To: "Steven M. Schultz" <sms(a)moe.2bsd.com> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:00:06 +1000 (EST) CC: PDP-11 Unix Preservation Society <pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au> Reply-To: wkt(a)tuhs.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk In article by Steven M. Schultz: >> I noticed that the sim2.3d+BB1 emulator will allow you to connect Unix >> "devices" to the DL1 lines. I set it to connect the serial port on my Linux >> box, and connected a IBM 3151 (VT100 like terminal), and it worked great! > > Probably doing 7E1 and just about anything would work with that ;) > > > Taking this a step further, I took the serial port and moved it to my Cisco > > router (the aux port).. I have been trying to configure SL/IP on it.. > > That'll definitely require a 'raw' or 8bit clean path and I don't know > if the sim2.3d does that or not - never tried it. The stock sim2.3d > doesn't appear to have extra serial line support - or if it does it > isn't obvious. Perhaps that is what the BB1 part is about. I can confirm that sim2.3d is not 8-bit clean on output. I got bitten on this when working on Vtserver, and I tore my hair out for a whole day. 443c449 < if ((temp = sim_putchar (tto_unit.buf & 0177)) != SCPE_OK) return temp; --- > if ((temp = sim_putchar (tto_unit.buf)) != SCPE_OK) return temp; It is 8-bit clean on input. Warren Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.tuhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA97320 for pups-liszt; Thu, 17 May 2001 17:04:28 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au) >From PUP <jstevep(a)tron.superglobalmegacorp.com> Thu May 17 17:37:56 2001 Received: from tron.superglobalmegacorp.com ([12.21.28.170]) by minnie.tuhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA97316 for <pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au>; Thu, 17 May 2001 17:04:24 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jstevep(a)tron.superglobalmegacorp.com) Received: (from jstevep@localhost) by tron.superglobalmegacorp.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f4H7buK16947 for pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au; Thu, 17 May 2001 02:37:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 02:37:56 -0500 (EST) From: PUP <jstevep(a)tron.superglobalmegacorp.com> Message-Id: <200105170737.f4H7buK16947(a)tron.superglobalmegacorp.com> To: pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Subject: Re: [pups] BSD 2.11 SL/IP and sim2.3d+BB1 Sender: owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk Thanks for the pointer, I found the part you mentioned for the ASCII clean up and removed them from the DL11 and KL11 drivers, and noticed that I need to detect the 0 device so the console is usable =) but the big thing is that I telneted into the VM using slip ok!!!! Thanks again, I didn't know what to look for in the source (I was looking @ the other half in the attach stuff not I/O (doh!)) If you want/need I'll gladly diff mine out... Oh btw Steven, every time I try to ftp the site, I get connection closed.. It 's definatly "up" but I can't get to it.. does your site try to reverse lookup clients? if so, that's the issue.. I don't have reverse entries for dns. Thanks again!

24 years, 1 month

[pups] John Wilson / DBit offline

by Fred N. van Kempen

Hi all, In case you're trying to get a hold of John Wilson, or were going to look at his web site... no go. Due to a fairly serious ISP, uhh, "issue", his machine died on him. I talked to him last night, and he was going to see if he could revive his (co-lo) machine, or would have to install a new one. Cheers, Fred -- Fred N. van Kempen Fred.van.Kempen(a)MicroWalt.NL Microsoft MCSE+I/MCSE/MCSD Compaq ASE/ACT UNIX Systems Programmer Cisco ACRC/CCDA/CCNA/SupportPro InterNetworking en Network Security Consultant MicroWalt Corporation (Netherlands), Korte Heul 95, 1403 ND BUSSUM Phone +31 (35) 6980059 FAX +31 (35) 6980215 http://WWW.MicroWalt.NL/ Dit bericht en eventuele bijlagen is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Openbaarmaking, vermenigvuldiging, verspreiding aan derden is niet toegestaan. Er wordt geen verantwoordelijkheid genomen voor de juiste en volledige overbrenging van de inhoud van dit bericht, noch voor de tijdige ontvangst ervan.

24 years, 1 month

[pups] Change of PUPS list address

by Warren Toomey

All, The machine which hosts the pups mailing list, minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au, is going to change its domain name in mid-July. To help alleviate any problems, I have taken out a separate domain, and have put in aliases to the current minnie address, and will migrate the aliases to the new address when the time comes. So, if possible could you send e-mail to the pups mailing list using the address pups(a)tuhs.org from now on. Thanks, Warren Toomey wkt(a)tuhs.org

24 years, 2 months

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