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Re: [pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7

by Frank Wortner

on 11/17/02 1:24 PM, Mario Premke at Mario.Premke(a)epost.de wrote: > Nevertheless, mounting the file and boot dl0: leads to the boot-prompt @ > After typing unix the boot-prompt appears again - does the kernel have a > different name ? boot dl0 @boot <- you type "boot" and press "enter" or "return" in reply New Boot, known device are hp ht rk rl rp tm vt : rl(0,0)rl2unix <- you type "rl(0,0)rl2unix" and press return mem = 177856 # <- you are now in "single user" mode <- press "control-d" to go to multiuser mode <- (the normal mode of operation) Restricted rights: Use, duplication, or disclosure is subject to restrictions stated in your contract with Western Electric Company, Inc. Thu Sept 22 06:26:09 EDT 1988 login: root <- login as "root" # <- Have fun ... <- You did make a backup of the disk image before you started, <- right? ;-) If you want to make things easier, your first command should be: # cp /rl2unix /unix Now you will be able to type "rl(0,0)unix" instead of "rl(0,0)rl2unix". Ps and other commands that need to read the system namelist also expect the kernel image to be named /unix. Enjoy! -- Frank "Plez cnoke if an rnsr is not reqid." Sign on Owl's Door, "Winnie the Pooh"

22 years, 7 months

Re: [pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 17, 21:09, M E Leypold wrote: > > Mario Premke writes: > > Nevertheless, mounting the file and boot dl0: leads to the boot-prompt @ > > After typing unix the boot-prompt appears again - does the kernel have a > > different name ? > > Thanks in advance > > Mario Premke > > rlunix? It should look something like this (from my 7th Editon on a real PDP-11): @boot boot : rl(0,0)unix The "@" is the bootstrap prompt, and the first "boot" is what you type. The second "boot" is from the boot program itself; the colon ":" is boot's prompt. "rl(0,0)" is what you type to name the device, unit, and partition, and "unix" is the kernel name. YMMV if you have a different kernel. BTW, to shut down an old system like this, you should (as root) type # kill -1 1 to stop user processes and return to single-user mode; then type "sync" a couple of times, to make sure any disk buffers are written out, and then stop the processor. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 7 months

Re: [pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7

by M E Leypold ＠ labnet

Mario Premke writes: > Thanks a lot !!! > That was what I was looking for ... > Nevertheless, mounting the file and boot dl0: leads to the boot-prompt @ > After typing unix the boot-prompt appears again - does the kernel have a > different name ? > Thanks in advance > Mario Premke rlunix? Regards -- Markus

22 years, 7 months

Re: [pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7

by Mario Premke

Thanks a lot !!! That was what I was looking for ... Nevertheless, mounting the file and boot dl0: leads to the boot-prompt @ After typing unix the boot-prompt appears again - does the kernel have a different name ? Thanks in advance Mario Premke ---------- > Von: Bill Gunshannon <bill(a)cs.scranton.edu> > An: Mario Premke <Mario.Premke(a)epost.de> > Cc: Gregg C Levine <hansolofalcon(a)worldnet.att.net>; pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org > Betreff: Re: [pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7 > Datum: Samstag, 16. November 2002 23:34 > > On Sat, 16 Nov 2002, Mario Premke wrote: > > > Hello Gregg, thanks for your immediate response ! > > I recently found the article 'Booting 7th Edition UNIX Images' on the > > 'vmsnet.pdp-11'-Newsgroups: > > > > <--- SNIP ---> > > > > ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/sim/sources/ > > ftp://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/pub/PDP-11-sims/Supnik_2.2d/sources/ > > > > Try http://simh.trailing-edge.com > > bill > > -- > Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves > bill(a)cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. > University of Scranton | > Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>

22 years, 7 months

Re: [pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7

by Bill Gunshannon

On Sat, 16 Nov 2002, Mario Premke wrote: > Hello Gregg, thanks for your immediate response ! > I recently found the article 'Booting 7th Edition UNIX Images' on the > 'vmsnet.pdp-11'-Newsgroups: > > <--- SNIP ---> > > ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/sim/sources/ > ftp://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/pub/PDP-11-sims/Supnik_2.2d/sources/ > Try http://simh.trailing-edge.com bill -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves bill(a)cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton | Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>

22 years, 7 months

Re: [pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7

by Mario Premke

Hello Gregg, thanks for your immediate response ! I recently found the article 'Booting 7th Edition UNIX Images' on the 'vmsnet.pdp-11'-Newsgroups: <--- SNIP ---> ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/sim/sources/ ftp://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/pub/PDP-11-sims/Supnik_2.2d/sources/ Once you get it, you have to compile the simulator. You also need to fetch the 7th Edition UNIX disk images as well; they are available from the above ftp sites in the software directory (i.e replace sources with software. Unpack the 7th Edition tarball in the same directory as the one you built the simulator. The only file you require is disks/unix_v7_rl.dsk <--- SNIP ---> What I wanted to say is that the above ftp-links are dead. You are right, I should look for the compressed tarball, but I don't know how the tarball is called and looking for 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' on google only leads to other dead links ... Any hints ? Mario Premke ---------- > Von: Gregg C Levine <hansolofalcon(a)worldnet.att.net> > An: pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org > Betreff: RE: [pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7 > Datum: Samstag, 16. November 2002 14:50 > > Hello from Gregg C Levine > How do you mean by that? " The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' > image I found are dead ... :-(" You said. How so? As I recall, that file > that's in there, for unix_v7_rl.dsk" is there, it's a totally different > UNIX_v7 file name, you need to call it that for the E11 product. For > SIMH, the full name as rendered by the extraction process from the > compressed file works. > ------------------- > Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon(a)worldnet.att.net > ------------------------------------------------------------ > "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi > "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi > (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi ) > (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda ) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pups-admin(a)minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:pups-admin@minnie.tuhs.org] > On > > Behalf Of Mario Premke > > Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:25 AM > > To: pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org > > Subject: [pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7 > > > > Hello, > > I just read the instructions of how to boot a binary version 7 disk > image > > on a ersatz11 pdp11 emulator. > > The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' image I found are dead ... > :-( > > Are there any other sites where I can download this binary > distribution ?? > > > > BTW their are disk dumps of version 7 in the Caldera ancient unix > archive > > .. is it possible to boot > > them on ersatz11 as well ? I tried it a few times without success ... > > I simply tried it with the following e11.ini (from a newsgroup > discussion), > > because I heavily lack > > PDP 11 hardware knowledge. Nevertheless trying this ini-file and many > > variations I made of it all > > end up in a blank emulator screen ... > > > > Any ideas will be appreciated > > > > Mario Premke > > > > ; Set up some terminal devices > > assign tt0: f1 > > assign tt1: f2 > > set scroll hard > > ; Make the CPU like an 11/45 > > set cpu dspace > > set cpu dualregset > > set cpu mmtraps > > set cpu pirq > > set cpu spl > > set cpu supmode > > set cpu cpuerr > > set cpu csm > > set cpu tstset > > ; Get rid of unneeded device > delays > > set delay dl11 0=0 1=0 > > set delay rl11 0=0 1=0 2=0 3=0 4=0 5=0 6=0 7=0 > > ; Mount the RL02 disk image > > mount dl0: v7_rl.dsk > > ; and boot > > boot dl0: > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PUPS mailing list > > PUPS(a)minnie.tuhs.org > > http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/pups > > _______________________________________________ > PUPS mailing list > PUPS(a)minnie.tuhs.org > http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/pups

22 years, 7 months

RE: [pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7

by Gregg C Levine

Hello from Gregg C Levine How do you mean by that? " The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' image I found are dead ... :-(" You said. How so? As I recall, that file that's in there, for unix_v7_rl.dsk" is there, it's a totally different UNIX_v7 file name, you need to call it that for the E11 product. For SIMH, the full name as rendered by the extraction process from the compressed file works. ------------------- Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon(a)worldnet.att.net ------------------------------------------------------------ "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi ) (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda ) > -----Original Message----- > From: pups-admin(a)minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:pups-admin@minnie.tuhs.org] On > Behalf Of Mario Premke > Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:25 AM > To: pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org > Subject: [pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7 > > Hello, > I just read the instructions of how to boot a binary version 7 disk image > on a ersatz11 pdp11 emulator. > The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' image I found are dead ... :-( > Are there any other sites where I can download this binary distribution ?? > > BTW their are disk dumps of version 7 in the Caldera ancient unix archive > .. is it possible to boot > them on ersatz11 as well ? I tried it a few times without success ... > I simply tried it with the following e11.ini (from a newsgroup discussion), > because I heavily lack > PDP 11 hardware knowledge. Nevertheless trying this ini-file and many > variations I made of it all > end up in a blank emulator screen ... > > Any ideas will be appreciated > > Mario Premke > > ; Set up some terminal devices > assign tt0: f1 > assign tt1: f2 > set scroll hard > ; Make the CPU like an 11/45 > set cpu dspace > set cpu dualregset > set cpu mmtraps > set cpu pirq > set cpu spl > set cpu supmode > set cpu cpuerr > set cpu csm > set cpu tstset > ; Get rid of unneeded device delays > set delay dl11 0=0 1=0 > set delay rl11 0=0 1=0 2=0 3=0 4=0 5=0 6=0 7=0 > ; Mount the RL02 disk image > mount dl0: v7_rl.dsk > ; and boot > boot dl0: > > > _______________________________________________ > PUPS mailing list > PUPS(a)minnie.tuhs.org > http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/pups

22 years, 7 months

[pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7

by Mario Premke

Hello, I just read the instructions of how to boot a binary version 7 disk image on a ersatz11 pdp11 emulator. The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' image I found are dead ... :-( Are there any other sites where I can download this binary distribution ?? BTW their are disk dumps of version 7 in the Caldera ancient unix archive .. is it possible to boot them on ersatz11 as well ? I tried it a few times without success ... I simply tried it with the following e11.ini (from a newsgroup discussion), because I heavily lack PDP 11 hardware knowledge. Nevertheless trying this ini-file and many variations I made of it all end up in a blank emulator screen ... Any ideas will be appreciated Mario Premke ; Set up some terminal devices assign tt0: f1 assign tt1: f2 set scroll hard ; Make the CPU like an 11/45 set cpu dspace set cpu dualregset set cpu mmtraps set cpu pirq set cpu spl set cpu supmode set cpu cpuerr set cpu csm set cpu tstset ; Get rid of unneeded device delays set delay dl11 0=0 1=0 set delay rl11 0=0 1=0 2=0 3=0 4=0 5=0 6=0 7=0 ; Mount the RL02 disk image mount dl0: v7_rl.dsk ; and boot boot dl0:

22 years, 7 months

[pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7

by Mario Premke

Hello, I just read the instructions of how to boot a binary version 7 disk image on a ersatz11 pdp11 emulator. The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' image I found are dead ... :-( Are there any other sites where I can download this binary distribution ?? BTW their are disk dumps of version 7 in the Caldera ancient unix archive . is it possible to boot them on ersatz11 as well ? I tried it a few times without success ... I simply tried it with the following e11.ini (from a newsgroup discussion), because I heavily lack PDP 11 hardware knowledge. Nevertheless trying this ini-file and many variations I made of it all end up in a blank emulator screen ... Any ideas will be appreciated Mario Premke (Please, send a return mail to my E-Mail address, since I am not on the list ..) ; Set up some terminal devices assign tt0: f1 assign tt1: f2 set scroll hard ; Make the CPU like an 11/45 set cpu dspace set cpu dualregset set cpu mmtraps set cpu pirq set cpu spl set cpu supmode set cpu cpuerr set cpu csm set cpu tstset ; Get rid of unneeded device delays set delay dl11 0=0 1=0 set delay rl11 0=0 1=0 2=0 3=0 4=0 5=0 6=0 7=0 ; Mount the RL02 disk image mount dl0: v7_rl.dsk ; and boot boot dl0:

22 years, 7 months

RE: [TUHS] port of old unices to i386?

by Ian King

I recall a thread about this only a few months ago. Check out the TUHS mail archive - I seem to recall that someone had ported V7 to the x86 architecture. Me, I have a PDP-11/34 in my basement.... -- Ian ________________________________ From: Jesper Jacobsson [mailto:jesperjacobsson@yahoo.se] Sent: Sat 11/9/2002 2:18 PM To: tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org Subject: [TUHS] port of old unices to i386? Hi there. I am a linux-user and I came across TUHS for the first time today actually when I was searching google for old unices. I love linux and am very interested in the history of unix. For some time I have wanted to try out some early versions of unix as I am in my early 20's and was born too late to have been around those days :( I havn't found any people to ask about this till today :) Anyway, I browsed the filearchive and I guess the distributions there surely won't work on my computer. Is there a way to get them work on a i386 computer? Have someone made any ports of an early unix system to i386 out of nostalgia? If not, could someone take it on as a hobbyproject so that new generations of unix-like-OS-users can explore it? It would be both fun and also very educational to play around with I am sure. I hope this email gets through and that I didn't annoy you guys. I have not signed up for this list I just emailed tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org directly and hoped it would get through :) Please send replies to jesperjacobsson(a)yahoo.se Answers would be very appriciated! Thanks in advance, Jesper ===== _____________________________________________________ Gratis e-mail resten av livet på www.yahoo.se/mail Busenkelt! _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs

22 years, 7 months

port of old unices to i386?

by Jesper Jacobsson

Hi there. I am a linux-user and I came across TUHS for the first time today actually when I was searching google for old unices. I love linux and am very interested in the history of unix. For some time I have wanted to try out some early versions of unix as I am in my early 20's and was born too late to have been around those days :( I havn't found any people to ask about this till today :) Anyway, I browsed the filearchive and I guess the distributions there surely won't work on my computer. Is there a way to get them work on a i386 computer? Have someone made any ports of an early unix system to i386 out of nostalgia? If not, could someone take it on as a hobbyproject so that new generations of unix-like-OS-users can explore it? It would be both fun and also very educational to play around with I am sure. I hope this email gets through and that I didn't annoy you guys. I have not signed up for this list I just emailed tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org directly and hoped it would get through :) Please send replies to jesperjacobsson(a)yahoo.se Answers would be very appriciated! Thanks in advance, Jesper ===== _____________________________________________________ Gratis e-mail resten av livet på www.yahoo.se/mail Busenkelt!

22 years, 8 months

Re: [pups] 2.9BSD and Simh

by helbig＠informatik.ba-stuttgart.de

Hi Mitch, you'll find the program enblock.c at http://www.ba-stuttgart.de/~helbig/os/v6/ that I wrote to prepare the v6 distribution tape for SIMH. With v7, you need to apply different block sizes like (f0, f1, ... f6 from Keith Bostic): enblock <f0 >dist.tap enblock <f1 >>dist.tap ... enblock <f4 >>dist.tap enblock 10240 <f5 >>dist.tap enblock 10240 <f6 >>dist.tap enblock </dev/null >>dist.tap Enblock puts an EOF tapemark at the end. The last invocation puts an EOT mark. Have fun, Wolfgang

22 years, 8 months

[pups] 1978 Tynix? (fwd)

by Warren Toomey

----- Forwarded message from Jorn Barger ----- From: jorn(a)enteract.com (Jorn Barger) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 04:09:15 -0700 I'm not a PUPS subscriber, but I've been browsing the archives and I wonder if you know anything about this? In an old Byte (Jan 1981, p200) Sol Libes wrote: > "UNIX-Like Operating Systems Increasing In Popularity: > Several software suppliers are now offering UNIX-like > operating systems that may rival CP/M. The first > UNIX-like software package, called TYNIX, was released > for LSI-11 and Heath H-11 systems in 1978 by the > Boston Children's Museum..." My guess is that this was Heinz Lycklama's unreleasable LSI-Unix (LSX), and I've written him to enquire, but haven't heard back yet. [ you're probably right, but I'd assume that it was a binary-only release - Warren ] I'm working on a detailed timeline of Linux prehistory, so I'm also following your Xenix explorations. I'd really like to know who did the first x86 Xenix, HCR or MS? [ I thought it was HCR too, but I could be wrong - Warren ] ----- End of forwarded message from Jorn Barger -----

22 years, 8 months

[pups] 2.9BSD and Simh

by mitch wright

Hi Folks, Does anyone know how to build a full distribution tape in Simh format? Or am I over looking something simple? I can boot and run the root RL02 image but would like install the full system. Would like to do the same for the 4.3 and the VAX Simh. Thanks, Mitch

22 years, 8 months

Re: [TUHS] license

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

"Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog(a)lemis.com> wrote: > I'll leave it to others to describe the early days. The Berkeley > Software License Agreement, generally called the BSD license, is > pretty straightforward, though. Wrong. The Berkeley Software License Agreement and what is known today as the "BSD license" are two different things. The latter is the liberal header Berkeley started prepending around 1988 to files that were totally theirs without any Bell Labs code. The former was the paper license that went with the 4.3BSD and earlier tapes where Bell, Bell/Berkeley, and pure Berkeley parts were not distinguished and the entire system could be used only by holders of UNIX source licenses from AT&T. Although I've never seen it myself, the Berkeley Software License Agreement could not have been like the liberal header, it surely had stuff in it telling you that if you share it with anyone, you must first verify that the recipient has a UNIX source license from AT&T, etc. MS

22 years, 8 months

Re: [TUHS] license

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Marco Robado <mar.roba(a)videotron.ca> wrote: > I would like > to give examples of a license on which the source of a software was > delivered in the 70's. I have the paper license for System V issued by AT&T to Case Western Reserve University, the famous UNIX source license. I have it buried somewhere in my papers. If you want it, I can dig it up and fax or snail-mail you a copy. (Sorry, no scanning. I use the computing technology from the days in question exclusively.) > For BSD I found in the > source of 2.11BSD a reference to "The Berkeley software license > Agreement" Yep, same for 4BSD. > but I don't have a copy of that document. I don't either. MS

22 years, 8 months

license

by Marco Robado

Hi, I am curently writing an article about the history of open source. I know all you can find on the Internet about the history of unix and BSD and the conflict between these two when BSD decided to opensource. But I could never find a copy of both licenses in the early days. I would like to give examples of a license on which the source of a software was delivered in the 70's. I browsed thru the sources of unix v5 and the only copyright I found was in the code of the c compiler and it just stated that it was copyrighted by Bell labs in 1972. I would think that there was some kind of hard copy copyright that came with the tape on wich the sources were originaly delivered. For BSD I found in the source of 2.11BSD a reference to "The Berkeley software license Agreement" but I don't have a copy of that document. I would appreciate if someone would communicate with me by e-mail or thru this list to give me some info about all that. -M.R.-

22 years, 8 months

[pups] this list

by Richard Snow

This was for older PDP's like the 11, wasn't it? I have a Vaxstation 3100. I do have the SIMH PHP simulator running which can simulate an 11, but I haven't done anything with it. Richard.

22 years, 8 months

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22 years, 8 months

re: C reference manual

by Dennis Ritchie

The original question (from Ian KIng) was > I'm looking for a copy of the C reference manual from some time between > the 6th Edition (1975) and the first version that came with 4.3BSD > (1986). Some offered pointers to the 6th edition version (which is around both at TUHS and also on my own home page.) Norman observed that the standard V7 tapes omitted the C manual from the documentation set, because of the publication of K&R 1. However, it turns out that in our own paper-published version of the 7th edition, the then-current spec (very nearly what became Appendix A of K&R 1) was indeed printed. Probably some of these manuals were distributed to people who got the tapes at that point. The printed 7th edition also included a 1-page "Recent Pages to C" addendum, describing the enum type, and also confirming that structure assignment plus passing and receiving structures to functions (promised for the future in K&R 1) were available. At some point there may have been an updated version of this--I don't have it--confirming that the compiler now, indeed, treated same-named members of different structures as distinct and non-interfering. I retyped this addendum, and it's now on my home page. More lately, Aharon pointed out that SCO had offered a (for-fee) fairly complete distribution of System III under an Ancient Unix license, and was kind enough to send it to me. It includes (under the name c_man) a version that looks to be just about the same as the version with the internal 7th edition. This also includes the "Recent Changes" as an addendum. (Amusingly, the enum example switches a color in its example: "winedark" to "puce". I don't know who did this; it could have been me!). Another interesting complication I turned up in investigating this is that Brian and I seem to have lost the machine-readable source for the actual Appendix A of K&R 1! (The rest of the text is still around). But to turn back to the original question: aside from the "Recent Changes" page, and perhaps some tweaking of the table of supported machines and perhaps a few other fairly minor things, there wasn't any significantly differing local C Reference Manual between 7th ed / K&R 1, up to the ANSI 1989 standard. However, I should try to retrieve what went into 4.3BSD-- I don't have a complete copy of it. Dennis

22 years, 8 months

re: Can someone advise me regarding a gui for UNIX

by Dennis Ritchie

Norman Wilson recalled > 22. Pike, R. "The Blit: A Multiplexed Graphics Terminal". _AT&T Bell > Laboratories Technical Journal 63_, 8 (Oct. 1984). > Rob described an earlier version of the Blit work in a USENIX talk > at USENIX in January 1982 (Santa Monica CA). So far as I know it > was just a talk, no paper, though he showed a canned demo on video > tape. By coincidence, one of the two videos made about early Blit work is newly available in .mpg format: look near the bottom of Rob Pike's page under Movies: http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/who/rob/index.html This was just now done by Gerard Holzmann. Be aware that it is 43MB in size. This version is spoken by actors, although the script is Rob's. The other Blit video is in Betacam format, and we don't currently have a player for it, so it's not digitized. I think it's silent, and presumably Rob talked during its showing. This might be what accompanied the Usenix talk. (By the way, there are two other, twice-as large videos there: the Labscam tape, and Rob's appearance on the David Letterman TV show with Penn and Teller.) Dennis

22 years, 8 months

Re: [TUHS] C reference manual

by Aharon Robbins

If anyone has one of the SCO Ancient Unix licenses and a copy of the archive that went with it, then they legally have the source to System III. If such a person extracts sys3.tar.gz and looks in usr/src/man/docs they'll find a file named `c_man' with the actual manual in it. I quote: ... .SH "1. INTRODUCTION" .PP This manual .FS .ps +1 \(dg This manual is reprinted, with minor changes, from .I "The C Programming Language" by Brian W. Kernighan and Dennis M. Ritchie, Prentice Hall, Inc., 1978. .ps .FE describes the C language ... What the legalities are of redistributing this, and/or generating postscript from it, are, I don't know. Similar questions apply to scanning in the ref man from a copy of K&R-I, which is now out of print. (I wish Caldera had included System III in their releasing of Ancient Unix. Sigh.) I hope this helps, some. Arnold P.S. Completely unrelated, but I find it really cool how much of the System III doc refers to C and Unix on the System/370... > Subject: Re: [TUHS] C reference manual > From: norman(a)nose.cs.utoronto.ca (Norman Wilson) > To: tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 09:13:22 -0400 > > To forestall those who haven't looked: the good news is that > the papers from Volume 2 of the manual were included in /usr/doc > on the V7 tape; the bad news is that the C Reference Manual was > omitted. Here is /usr/doc/cman in its entirety: > > Sorry, but for copyright reasons, the source > for the C Reference Manual is not distributed. > > Presumably the problem was that the Reference Manual was published > as part of the a real book in 1978. > > I forget just what Tony was after in the first place, but maybe > some of the stuff on Dennis Ritchie's home page will help: > http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/who/dmr/index.html > In particular the Sixth Edtion version of the C Reference Manual > is there. > > Norman Wilson > Toronto ON

22 years, 8 months

[pups] Minnie mail down over the weekend

by Warren Toomey

The machine which hosts this mailing list is scheduled to be down over the Australian weekend due to power problems. It should be up on Monday morning Australian time. Warren

22 years, 8 months

Re: [TUHS] C reference manual

by norman＠nose.cs.utoronto.ca

To forestall those who haven't looked: the good news is that the papers from Volume 2 of the manual were included in /usr/doc on the V7 tape; the bad news is that the C Reference Manual was omitted. Here is /usr/doc/cman in its entirety: Sorry, but for copyright reasons, the source for the C Reference Manual is not distributed. Presumably the problem was that the Reference Manual was published as part of the a real book in 1978. I forget just what Tony was after in the first place, but maybe some of the stuff on Dennis Ritchie's home page will help: http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/who/dmr/index.html In particular the Sixth Edtion version of the C Reference Manual is there. Norman Wilson Toronto ON

22 years, 8 months

Re: [TUHS] C reference manual

by Ian King

I have an original (in print) of the C reference manual from Unix 6th Ed, as part of a multipart binder titled "Documents for Use With the Unix Timesharing System", as well as the "UNIX Programmer's Manual", which is a print copy of the man pages. I could probably scan the C ref in my copious spare time, if you're not in a hurry. Warren, do you want to archive stuff like this? -- Ian -----Original Message----- From: Tony Finch [mailto:dot@dotat.at] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:10 PM To: tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org Cc: dot(a)dotat.at Subject: [TUHS] C reference manual I'm looking for a copy of the C reference manual from some time between the 6th Edition (1975) and the first version that came with 4.3BSD (1986). The stuff in the TUHS archive mostly seems to be missing the documentation sets, or in the case of the earlier BSDs they are ommitted for copyright reasons. There are some tutorials dating from about 1979 but they aren't much use. Any help would be appreciated. Tony. -- f.a.n.finch <dot(a)dotat.at> http://dotat.at/ DOGGER: NORTHEAST 6 TO GALE 8 BACKING NORTHWEST 4 OR 5. RAIN OR SHOWERS. MODERATE OR GOOD. _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs

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