TUHS May 2022

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35 discussions

by Warner Losh

Greetings, What's the canonical source for patches to 2.9BSD and 2.11BSD? I see we have 2.11BSD patch 469 dated last month in the archive. Where does it come from? Has anybody climbed the hill to import all the patches into a git repo? I've found some mirrors, but moe.2bsd.org has been down for me for ages... How does Warren keep things up to date? I also have a (maybe faulty) memory of a similar series of patches to 2.9BSD because it was the last BSD to support non-split I&D space machines. yet a quick google search turns up nothing other than a set of patches dated August 1985 (also in our archive) and some changes for variants of hardware (pro, mscp). Is that it? Warner

2 years, 3 months

Historical application software

by Paul Ruizendaal

I came across a website that discusses reviving an old binary for Lotus 1-2-3 for SysV Unix (386 COFF), on the way to making it run on Linux: https://lock.cmpxchg8b.com/linux123.html The audience here may enjoy the read, and maybe it is of use when reviving other old application software for 1980’s and 1990’s Unix. The key part I think is this: Quote: "Yikes - it’s an original unstripped object file from 1-2-3. There are nearly 20,000 symbols including private symbols and debug information. Why would Lotus ship this? It’s so big it must have required them to phyiscally ship an extra disk to every customer? Could it have been a mistake, accidentally left on the final release image? I had so many questions, but I’m not old enough to have any experience with SysV, so I asked the greybeards on alt.folklore.computers if they had seen this before and why this might have happened. The answer was that this is probably deliberate - dlopen() was not widely available on UNIX in the early 90s, so there was no easy way to load native plugins or extensions. To solve this, vendors would ship a bunch of partially linked object files with a script to relink them with your extensions – Clever!"

3 years, 2 months

Re: Anyone have an interest in really old analog multimeters and a vacuum tube tested circa 1960s or 1950s?

by Kenneth Goodwin

The party also has a vintage AUTOMOBILE tester If anyone knows of a car collector with a passion for such things interested in a display piece Or if you still have the first car you ever bought sitting in the garage Link to posting attached. https://cnj.craigslist.org/zip/d/hightstown-for-scrap-vintage-eico-888/7489… I am in direct contact with the party offering these items. They are all coming out of basement storage On Sun, May 29, 2022, 8:53 AM Kenneth Goodwin <kennethgoodwin56(a)gmail.com> wrote: > No worries. > > On Sun, May 29, 2022, 12:04 AM John Sambrook <john(a)common-sense.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Kenneth - >> >> Thank you for the pics. >> >> The tube tester appears to be just the meter from a whole tester. >> Usually, a tube tester is about the size of a small suitcase and has a >> number of different sockets on its front panel for testing different types >> of tubes. >> >> One of the meters seems worthwhile, but at this time, I am going to >> decline and hope that at least some of the gear can be salvaged. >> >> Thank you for the consideration. >> >> John >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 28, 2022, at 7:18 PM, Kenneth Goodwin <kennethgoodwin56(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> One thing >> >> Sort of looks like the tube checker might be missing a whole lot of the >> rest of it. >> Like an entire cabinet of stuff >> >> See photos >> >> On Sat, May 28, 2022, 10:11 PM Kenneth Goodwin < >> kennethgoodwin56(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Everyone feel free to inquire around. >>> If it all goes to one private party. Then at least they will know who to >>> passing along to. >>> >>> On Sat, May 28, 2022, 7:45 PM Clem Cole <clemc(a)ccc.com> wrote: >>> >>>> What about the rescue mailing list? >>>> >>>> On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 7:31 PM Ed Cashin <ecashin(a)noserose.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If you don't get a response here, I wouldn't mind asking on the >>>>> Heinbach subreddit. Just let me know. >>>>> >>>>> Heinbach is a musician who creates live and recorded music using lab >>>>> equipment. He has a large following of inspired creators who would >>>>> probably love to use this equipment. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 6:09 PM Kenneth Goodwin < >>>>> kennethgoodwin56(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Details >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) Knight Allied Radio volt meter 446-06235 >>>>>> 2) Precision Apparatus series 85 volt meter >>>>>> 3) Weston Model 676 Tube checker >>>>>> >>>>>> Useful as display pieces >>>>>> >>>>>> Presumed to all be functional. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, May 28, 2022, 6:06 PM Kenneth Goodwin < >>>>>> kennethgoodwin56(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a party in Hightstown NJ >>>>>>> Looking to donate them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Will follow up with specs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They already contacted the radio museum in Wall NJ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I told them to try VCF since they should be a separate organization. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Ed Cashin <ecashin(a)noserose.net> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual >>>> >>>

3 years, 2 months

Why is it always "fast boot" in 2.11BSD?

by Matthias Bruestle

Hi, I have noticed, that 2.11BSD is in all cases where I looked set to "fast boot", which AFAIK means no fsck of at least /. I found nobody talking about this or providing information about how to change it to "slow boot" with a proper check, which is now normal. Is there a reason why it is not possible to deactivate fast boot? Or is it just that nobody bothered to do it? Thanks Matthias -- When You Find Out Your Normal Daily Lifestyle Is Called Quarantine

3 years, 2 months

ACM opens up much of its archives

by Douglas McIlroy

>> If you’re a *current* member of these societies then you should have good access to journal content. >I believe this is true for ACM, but for IEEE not so much. You have to pay for a digital library membership _in addition to_ your standard membership ACM is the same. At $99/year membership is a bargain by ordinary professional society standards. But they charge an additional $99 for access to 21st-century Digital Library.content. Doug

3 years, 2 months

ACM opens up much of its archives

by arnold＠skeeve.com

https://associationsnow.com/2022/05/the-way-things-were-why-open-access-to-… cm-digital-library-matters/

3 years, 2 months

Fwd: ACM Digital Library now open access

by Richard Salz

From an internal $WORK chat: The ACM Digital Library now offers access to ~50 years of papers/records without paywall or registration: https://associationsnow.com/2022/05/the-way-things-were-why-open-access-to-… This includes Dennis Ritchie & Ken Thompson's seminal 1974 "The UNIX Time-Sharing System" (https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/357980.358014) an interview with one Steve Jobs from 1989 ( https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/63334.63336) where he discusses basing NeXTSTEP on "Berkeley UNIX" (aka BSD) + Mach and how the (previous year's) Morris Worm "isn't a really serious problem", and goes all the way back to 1951's paper on the UNIVAC ( https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/1434770.1434772)

3 years, 2 months

First test e-mail

by Warren Toomey

If I'm lucky, this will be the first e-mail to the TUHS list using the mailman3 software on the new minnie server. Cheers, Warren

3 years, 2 months

Re: Pronunciation

by Norman Wilson

It's spelled TUHS but it's pronounced values of beeta may give rise to dom!

3 years, 2 months

Archives of the TUHS mailing list

by Warren Toomey

All, now that the TUHS list has migrated over to the new mailman3 system, I should point out where the list archives are now available. They are: https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/tuhs@tuhs.org/ - new mailman3 format https://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/ - old mailman2 format https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Documentation/TUHS/Mail_list/ - same as above, but in a format that makes it easier to download All mail to the TUHS list should, eventually, end up in all three places. Cheers, Warren

3 years, 2 months

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