TUHS June 2020

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Re: [TUHS] Fwd: Origins and life of the pg pager

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Michael Siegel > there's no need to write out "less" every time. You can just alias that > to "pg" without causing any harm and save two letters, which is an > improvement for a task that is performed manually rather often. It always surpised me that there wasn't more of this - abbreviating the names of the most-used commands, to minimize typing - or more specifically, run-length encoding them based on how frequently they were used, with the most-used ones given the shortest names. The MIT-DSSR PWB1 system had a pager called just 'p' (source here: http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/unix/s2/p.c if anyone wants to see it; the man page is dated Apr/77); and 'ls' was tweaked to recognize the command name 'l' as an alias for 'ls -ls'. Of course, aliases didn't exist in the shell back then, which was why the command had to be coded to recognize the short form, and act differently. (And /bin/l was linked to /bin/ls.) 'l' and 'p' are _still_ aliased in my shell,to this day! > I hope it's okay that I chose to reply just to the list address and take > all the other addresses out. 'That's not a bug, that's a feature!' I always delete other addresses when replying to a list, unless I think someone might not be subscribed to that list. Noel

4 years, 1 month

Jon Bentley's DFORMAT preprocessor now available

by Arnold Robbins

Hello All. I have reconstituted Jon Bentley's DFORMAT preprocessor (troff and awk source) and made it available on GitHub. See https://github.com/arnoldrobbins/dformat. This is an awk program that reads a description of data layouts, such as registers or network packets, and generates PIC descriptions. A Makefile generates PDF from the dformat.ms file using GNU troff. Jon Bentley was helpful in the final stages, including contributing his original files. Enjoy! Arnold Robbins

4 years, 1 month

Dennis's list thesis is found

by Richard Salz

https://computerhistory.org/blog/discovering-dennis-ritchies-lost-dissertat…

4 years, 1 month

2.9BSD-Seismo

by Warner Losh

So in BSD family tree, there's a 2.9BSD-Seismo and a 2.9.1BSD listed. Yet I can't seem to find them in the TUHS archive. There is a 2.9-Patch directory dated 1985 the same as the date that's found in the family tree. Is that the Seismo version? And Kirk's archive has a 2.9pucc directory, which appears appears to be from Purdue dated1987. How does this relate? Thanks for any help you can provide Warner

4 years, 1 month

updated: loop networks at Bell Labs

by Paul Ruizendaal

With some further reading and research (and the kind help of Heinz Lycklama and Jon Steinart) I’ve found that my understanding of early loop networks at Bell Labs confused several different systems. As far as I can currently tell there were at least 4 different loop networks developed around 1970 at Murray Hill. 1. The first one is the “Newhall Loop” (paper published in 1969). This loop used twisted pair cabling, ran at about 3Mhz and used variable sized messages. It seems to have used some sort of token to coordinate between hosts. This might have been the network that Ken Thompson recalled as having been in operation when he arrived at the labs in 1966. 2. The second one appears to have been the “Pierce Loop”, as described in 3 BSTJ papers submitted in 1970/71. This one was coax based, used T1 compatible frames and was used to connect H516 computers with various bits of equipment. It seems to have had a very short life span. Part of my confusion was that the term Pierce Loop also appears to have been used in a generic sense to denote loop networks with fixed-sized frames. 3. The third one is the “Weller Loop” (paper published in 1971). This loop used coax cabling, ran at 3.3Mhz and used fixed 35 bit frames/cells. Each cell carried one address byte and two data bytes. One participant on the loop was the controller and effectively polled the other stations. In its 1971 form it appears to have been for the H516’s only and was referred to as a “Serial I/O bus”. This is what Jon Steinhart was talking about. The Weller loop was later redesigned (memo written in 1973) to interface with PDP-11’s as well. Heinz Lycklama used this loop in 1974 to connect several systems running (rump) Unix - see his paper about peripheral Unix here: https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Documentation/TechReports/Heinz_Tech_Memos/TM-… <https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Documentation/TechReports/Heinz_Tech_Memos/TM-…> This Serial I/O bus remained in use for several years at least. 4. The fourth and best known one is the “Spider Loop” (memo published in 1974, but operational from 1972). Twisted pair cabling, using T1 compatible frames. In use until about 1978. Main uses appear to have been the ‘nfs’ file store and the ‘npr’ remote printing service. My conclusion from all that is that in 1974 Unix had access to two networks, Spider and the Serial I/O bus. For both, first experiments would have been in 1973. It is hard to be sure which one came first. If I had to venture a guess today, I’d say that Spider connected to Unix several months before the Weller loop (even though the 1st generation Weller loop preceded Spider). Maybe the conclusion is that both happened more or less in parallel: Weller was also one of the designers of the Spider hardware.

4 years, 1 month

Interesting problem

by Gregg Levine

Hello! I normally download items from the Society FTP site rather than from the archival area on the website. And my clients kept getting bounced, claiming that I should stop trying to connect frequently. Oddly enough that was not the case a while ago. Was the archive recently updated regarding hosting software? On Windows it was FileZilla, and spun down to one rather than eight or ten. And on the WSL SLES12 SP3 arrangement it was ncftp. Now downloading the reports to go along with the one Paul made available from the location is not important for today, I can wait until tomorrow or the next day. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8(a)gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

4 years, 1 month

Re: [TUHS] Origins and life of the pg pager

by Norman Wilson

Rob Pike: Yeah, p is all we need. I think it originated with td at UofT. I might have brought it with me to Bell Labs, or recreated it. Probably the former. ==== The former, I think. The source code in V10 is very similar to that you left behind at Caltech (where I first encountered p). Most differences have to do with using opendir and readdir rather than reading raw directories in the SPname code. A further clue is that, even in V10, p.c begins /*%cc p.c pad.o spname.o */ The tool that looked for such lines to tell it how to compile things (I forget its name; was it comp?) doesn't seem to have survived in the archival backup I have from Caltech HEP, but I'm quite sure it came from U of T as well. Norman Wilson Toronto ON

4 years, 1 month

Re: [TUHS] Origins and life of the pg pager

by Doug McIlroy

> less(1) was actually an improvement Hmm. Less is my favorite whipping boy for featuritis. % less --help |wc 242 1331 12202 I am very happy with p. Doug

4 years, 1 month

v7 K&R C

by Adam Thornton

The C in v7 is, canonically, the language described in K&R, right? I must be doing something dumb. I am getting Webb Miller’s “s” editor built there, and I am down to one function. /* chop_arg - chop a function's argument to a maximum length */ static chop_arg(fcn, arg, maxlen) int (*fcn)(); int maxlen; char *arg; { char save; save = arg[maxlen]; arg[maxlen] = '\0'; fcn(arg); arg[maxlen] = save; } This doesn’t like the function pointer. $ cc -c choparg.c choparg.c:11: Call of non-function So, uh, what is the obvious thing I am missing? How am I supposed to be passing function pointers in the C compiler that comes with v7? Adam

4 years, 1 month

Re: [TUHS] Accessing the PDP-11/70 MMU registers and the kernel's u area

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Diomidis Spinellis > From the 2.11 BSD sources I understand that the PDP-11/70 MMU address > and data registers, KDSA and KDSD, start at 0172360 and 0172320 > respectively ... Expressed as 16-bit addreses, on a PDP-11 with mapping disabled, yes. > I checked this by looking at /dev/mem. I don't know about 2.11, but in other PDP-11 Unixes, /dev/mem gives access to the actual CPU memory bus (which on a /34, etc, is the 18-bit address UNIBUS; on a /70 it's a separate 22-bit address bus). In the /70 memory address space, the 'I/O page' (which is where the PxR's live) is at the top end of it, i.e. the registers are at 017772360 (KDSAR0), etc. > What am I missing? PDP-11's have a plethora of address spaces, of different sizes. You need to always be aware of which one you're working in. > My goal is to access from the console the kernel's u area. According to > mem(4) and the symbols in /unix, this should be at address 0140000. In the kernel virtual address space, yes. > Indeed, accessing it through /dev/kmem I get the expected results for > e.g. u_comm and u_uid. Because /dev/kmem gives access to kernel address space for the _current_ process. > I have been unable to find it in the machine's physical memory By far and away the easiest thing, for the _current_ process, is to use /dev/kmem, which automagally applies the correct mapping. For other processes, if the process is swapped in, there's some field in the proc structure which says where in physical memory it us. IIRC, the user struct and the kernel stack are stored in the very bottom of that. (This article: http://gunkies.org/wiki/Unix_V6_dump_analysis#Memory_layouts goes into some detail for V6. Not sure how different 2.11 is; I know it uses one block of kernel address space to map in code overlays, but I don't know all the details of how it works.) Anyway, using that, one could read the user area in /dev/mem, at the appropriate location. For swapped-out processes, a similar algorithm applies, but you'll have to look in the swap device (obviously). Noel

4 years, 1 month

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