I've assembled some notes from old manuals and other sources
on the formats used for on-disk file systems through the
Seventh Edition:
http://www.cita.utoronto.ca/~norman/old-unix/old-fs.html
Additional notes, comments on style, and whatnot are welcome.
(It may be sensible to send anything in the last two categories
directly to me, rather than to the whole list.)
Hi,
I successfully made SIMH VAX-11/780 emulator run 32V, 3BSD and 4.0BSD.
Details are on my web site (thogh rather tarse):
http://zazie.tom-yam.or.jp/starunix/
Enjoy!
Naoki Hamada
nao(a)tom-yam.or.jp
Does anyone know (remember) which Unices had .../bin/[ be a link
to .../bin/test. I remember this being the case, but it is not so on
any recent Solaris. It is the case on my Mac, so in at least one BSD
derivative. I looked through a 7th edition tarball from the archive
and it's not the case there. So my guess is that it is a BSDism, and
it probably was the case in SunOS 4 and before, and I guess on at
least 4.2BSD & later.
Thanks
--tim
More info here:
http://web.mit.edu/multics-history/
- Derrik
Derrik Walker v2.0, RHCE
lorddoomicus(a)mac.com
http://www.doomd.net
"I want to be on the list ... I try but they never put me on" --
Steve Wozniak on "being on the list"
On 17-Nov-07, at 4:15 PM, Bob Eager wrote:
> ** Reply to note from Toby Thain <toby(a)smartgames.ca> Sat, 17 Nov
> 2007 12:44:53 -0200
>
>> On 17-Nov-07, at 11:21 AM, Bob Eager wrote:
>>
>>> ** Reply to note from Toby Thain <toby(a)smartgames.ca> Sat, 17 Nov
>>> 2007 11:08:32 -0200
>>>
>>>> On 2-Nov-07, at 11:59 AM, Bob Eager wrote:
>>>>> ** Reply to note from Brantley Coile <brantley(a)coraid.com> Fri, 2
>>>>> Nov 2007 09:42:47 -0400
>>>>>> Wes,
>>>>>> Is this the book you are thinking of?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://research.microsoft.com/users/gbell/Computer_Engineering/
>>>>>> index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably was!
>>>>>
>>>>> I just bought a copy on eBay a couple of weeks ago, and have just
>>>>> read it
>>>>> cover to cover.
>>>>
>>>> There's more than one edition. ...
> I have the earlier "Computer Engineering" and the 2nd edition of
> "Art of
> Digital Design". I have now ordered the 1998 edition of "Computer
> Engineering". I look forward to all of the stuff that was too late
> for the
> first edition.
Bob,
Sorry! I think I was actually talking about a different Bell title. I
checked my past orders and found the following:
Author: Bell, C. Gordon; Newell, Allen
Title: Computer Structures: Readings and Examples
Author: Siewiorek, Daniel; Bell, C. Gordon; Newell, Allen,
Title: Computer Structures: Principles and Examples
Both of these contain many architectural case studies (each book
covers a different set). And both should be findable in this list:
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?
an=bell&sts=t&tn=computer+structures
I also have Computer Engineering but it's a different book! Sorry
again about the confusion.
--Toby
>
>
> Bob
** Reply to note from Brantley Coile <brantley(a)coraid.com> Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:42:47 -0400
> Wes,
> Is this the book you are thinking of?
>
> http://research.microsoft.com/users/gbell/Computer_Engineering/index.html
Probably was!
I just bought a copy on eBay a couple of weeks ago, and have just read it
cover to cover. A bit dry at the start, but fascinating...I starting using
PDP11s back in 1972. (an 11/20)
And used what I think was the first v6 UNIX system in England...
Bob
cc: pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org
Having long ago got rid of my collection of ageing British (super)
minis, I realise I'm missing them, though I'm not sure why. I can't
pretend any more that something running 4.2BSD is really practical,
so I'd like to get something really impractical, like a pdp11.
What I'd like to be able to do is run 7th edition or thereabouts and/
or 2.11BSD on something which is not too large (so full-height 19"
racks are out). I'm not interested in emulators. It looks to me
like there are such systems - for instance the recently-discussed
11/23 (or 11/73) looks practical, other than being in Utah.
So I guess I have two questions:
Firstly is this a practical thing to do in terms of reliability of HW
etc? I finally gave up on the previous lot of machines at least
partly because disks &c were just so flaky that it was too painful to
keep things working (also we're talking full-height 19" racks in some
cases so they were a bit, well, big). I don't want to spend my life
trying to source ancient disks etc (though I'm clearly not expecting
things to be as reliable as good, new modern kit).
Secondly, does anyone in the UK (may be there is no one but me, of
course...) have any hints where I might look and what I might expect
to pay. I've looked on ebay but I'm a little nervous of what I might
get that way.
Thanks
--tim
