I am copying all I can from the unix archive and will burn it to cd
because I know how precious they are. But what I was thinking was v5,6,7 for
example. Take them and add USB support. Linux would be a good example from
which to draw from. Because it's Posix. Much more could be adde to /dev.
Bill
Has anyone thought of or tried to port the gcc to the old unixes? It
would have to be a very scaled down version. A C compiler that would work
with modern c89 or c99. Something to get a C compiler working that would
compile todays programs. The old C compilers can be kept for safekeeping as
they don't work much anymore.
Bill
Hi there !
Over december last year I had my first wonderful expierence with a
micro-pdp11 running Micro-RSX.
In actual fact I haven't tried much, only a complete reinstall of the
system(which was unecessary, because I've got backup tapes !).
But still an amazing moment.
What I wanted to ask is, in what manner would one transfer old
data/programs/source code from an old
hard-drive/tapes/floppy to more modern drives etc. I basically need to
transfer controller-programs over to x86( Everything works, I believe, but
old hardware is scares) where I want to connect a modern pdp11-interface
card.
Thanking you in advance
Jacques Wagener
Bill Cunningham:
I am copying all I can from the unix archive and will burn it to cd
because I know how precious they are. But what I was thinking was v5,6,7 for
example. Take them and add USB support. Linux would be a good example from
which to draw from. Because it's Posix. Much more could be adde to /dev.
=======
Has anyone ever made a UNIBUS or Qbus USB card?
Norman Wilson
Toronto ON
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/bellLabs/unix/
here is a note from Dennis about the history of the documents
that I've just put up on bitsavers
--
The manual is the 1st edition, a scan of which has been available at
http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/1stEdman.html
in various forms (all renditions of the same scan) for a while.
However, the annotated OS and software scan is new to me This is
a medium-age version of the assembler system for the
PDP 11/20, and is apparently without an MMU. A good find!
There were subsequent assembler versions for the (DEC Special Systems)
11/20 with an MMU and then for a while for the 11/45;
the first C version would appear late summer of 1973.
Regards and thanks,
Dennis
I am running linux and I want to devote a partition to a good working
old version of linux v5,6, or 7. I have Bob's simulator and it works great.
The thing is when I boot v7_rk05_1145 or v7_rl02_1145 which is I believe
Dennis's donations I don't know how to log out of the system. I also want to
make a filesystem for unix and I don't know how to do that with a pdp-11
emulator. I want the source so it can be generated too.
Bill
Bill Cunningham:
I am copying all I can from the unix archive and will burn it to cd
because I know how precious they are. But what I was thinking was v5,6,7 for
example. Take them and add USB support. Linux would be a good example from
which to draw from. Because it's Posix. Much more could be adde to /dev.
=======
Has anyone ever made a UNIBUS or Qbus USB card?
Norman Wilson
Toronto ON
I have been able to install and run ultrix 3, ultrix4
and OpenVMS on the SIMH emulator. No problem at all at
any point.
Regarding ultrix, the images available on the archive
worked like a charm. For ultrix 4 I used an
installation CD I still kept around for ULTRIX on
VAXen.
As for OpenVMS, if you are interested, it also works
OK, but getting it is a bit more difficult. First you
need a Hobbyist license from HP.
You can get one by joining a local VMS user group (or
Encompass US if there is none in your Country).
Usually you can get a free limited membership that
will give you access to the license. It must be
renewed periodically.
Then you need access to VMS for VAX distribution
media. We have been an Ultrix, OSF-Tru64 and VMS shop
for a long time, so that wasn't a problem for me.
Otherwise it might be difficult. I think you can order
a hobbyist copy from HP, but don't rely on my feeble
memory.
Once you have the license and the media, installing it
is just as simple as installing on a real VAX. I had
no trouble at all, but again, I've been a VMS sysman
as well for over 20 years. The only problematic point
is making the network work, but the recipes available
on the web are excellent. You can get to them from the
links in SIMH web page.
> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:32:27 -0400
> From: "Bill Cunningham" <billcu1 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Bob's emulator and ultrix
> To: <wkt at tuhs.org>
>
> I can't get the sim 2.3d to boot ultrix 3.1 or xenix
or anyother boot tapes
> in the uhs's archive. I have compiled the pdp11
emulator with gcc-3.4.6. I
> am also interested in the OS Tim Berners-Lee used to
write his first
> browser. VMS on a VAX machine I have read. Is there
anything like this in
> the archive? A VAX emulator and VMS OS?
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[ Please reply to Bill if you can, I don't know if he's on the list ]
----- Forwarded message from Bill Cunningham <billcu1(a)verizon.net> -----
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:32:27 -0400
From: "Bill Cunningham" <billcu1(a)verizon.net>
Subject: Bob's emulator and ultrix
To: <wkt(a)tuhs.org>
I can't get the sim 2.3d to boot ultrix 3.1 or xenix or anyother boot tapes
in the uhs's archive. I have compiled the pdp11 emulator with gcc-3.4.6. I
am also interested in the OS Tim Berners-Lee used to write his first
browser. VMS on a VAX machine I have read. Is there anything like this in
the archive? A VAX emulator and VMS OS?
Bill
----- End forwarded message -----
Begin forwarded message:
[snip]
>
> On 4/18/06, Warren Toomey <wkt(a)tuhs.org> wrote:
>> [ Please reply to Bill if you can, I don't know if he's on
>> the list ]
>>
>> ----- Forwarded message from Bill Cunningham <billcu1(a)verizon.net>
>> -----
>>
>> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:32:27 -0400
>> From: "Bill Cunningham" <billcu1(a)verizon.net>
>> Subject: Bob's emulator and ultrix
>> To: <wkt(a)tuhs.org>
>>
>> I can't get the sim 2.3d to boot ultrix 3.1 or xenix or anyother
>> boot tapes
>> in the uhs's archive. I have compiled the pdp11 emulator with
>> gcc-3.4.6. I
>> am also interested in the OS Tim Berners-Lee used to write his first
>> browser. VMS on a VAX machine I have read. Is there anything like
>> this in
>> the archive? A VAX emulator and VMS OS?
>
> Tim Berners-Lee developed what became the WWW, server and browser, on
> a NeXT computer running the NeXTstep OS. There is not a whole lot of
> public knowledge about the internals of the NeXT hardware, which makes
> it difficult to write an emulator for it.
>
> There is a slowly progressing effort to port NetBSD to NeXT hardware.
> Also, the last few releases of NeXTstep and OpenStep would run either
> on NeXT hardware or selected x86 hardware.
NEXTSTEP 3.3 & OpenStep run on NeXT's m68k, x86, and on HP/Apollo 700
series HPPA workstations and on several SUN SPARCstation models.
I own an HP735 that runs NS3.3 quite nicely.
> Somewhere there is a
> writeup covering the subject of running OpenStep on the VMware virtual
> machine.
This is a close but not quite the same thing article:
http://iamleeg.blogspot.com/2006/04/so-heres-full-system-networking-
is.html
>
> None of this is VAX, nor is it any other hardware covered by SimH.
>
> carl
> --
> carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego
> clowenst(a)ucsd.edu
>
>
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