natalia
check also comp.os.minix it's active.
zmkm
>From: "Natalia Portillo" <iosglpgc(a)teleline.es>
>To: <tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org>
>Subject: [TUHS] Getting UNIXs for 16-bit 8086
>Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 13:08:28 +0100
>
>Is it possible to get a UNIX that runs on a 8086 or 8088 PC?
>Or for 80286 or 80386?
>
>Xenix?
>AT&T?
>SCO?
>Interactive UNIX?
>
>Where please?
>
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andru
I should've known better before I rush my reply :-) , what I meant was since
gnu cpio can uncompress those cpio files , so I assumed that it can be
uncompressed booted and re packaged as a single .dsk image (like the unix7
thing) , but since I have no background in pdp11 hardware I am not sure how
can this be done.
cheers.
zmkm
>From: Andru Luvisi <luvisi(a)andru.sonoma.edu>
>Reply-To: Andru Luvisi <luvisi(a)andru.sonoma.edu>
>To: zmkm zmkm <new_zmkm(a)hotmail.com>
>CC: tuhs(a)tuhs.org
>Subject: Re: [TUHS] Installing SysIII on simh?
>Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:21:34 -0700 (PDT)
>
>On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, zmkm zmkm wrote:
> >
> > Andu
> >
> > wouldn't be easier to load it through dsk (I mean download the complete
>tar
> > and make a dsk out of it) .
>
>I'm not clear on what you mean by this. Here is how I was planning to do
>the install:
>
> 1) Boot from tape
> 2) Install miniroot on disk
> 3) Boot from disk
> 4) Untar rest of installation onto disk from tar tape file
>
>The instructions in usr/src/man/docs/setup (in the tar file) talk about
>using cpio and cpio format tape files instead of tar, but all I have is a
>tar file.
>
>I have not managed to finish step 3.
>
>Andru
>--
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>
>
>
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Hi,
I'm trying to locate a PDP-11 bootstrap for a TS11 or TU80.
I've created a unix v7m distribution tape and want to try and install
from it.
Thanks.
--
TTFN - Guy
Whitesmith under the capable guidance of Plauger - who else - came up with
Idris. And a number of other Un*x clones were duly written at about the same
time, according to:
http://www.robotwisdom.com/linux/nonnix.html
The question is, is it possible to get ahold of those for the early Un*x
hobbyist? Does anyone have any knowledge of their whereabouts, and
(potential) legal statii?
Wesley Parish
--
Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?"
You ask, "What is the most important thing?"
Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata."
I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people."
Hi,
Seems that SIMH/PDP11, p11 and ts10 do not simulate older PDP-11's
They appear to cover only /*3 (/23, /53, /73, etc) models.
Am I wrong about this?
Are there any open source emulators for the /40, /45, or /70?
I know about Charon and Esatz.
Thanks,
Ken
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Hi,
Harti's p11 comes with mktape which when given a control file will turn a set
of files into a tape image. Is there anything like this for SIMH PDP-11?
Thanks,
Ken
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I am having difficulty installing SysIII on simh. I have attached my simh
pdp11 ini file (sys3.simh.bootstrap) and the Perl script used to create
the install tape (mksys3tap.pl). Everything seems to go fine while
installing the miniroot, but when I try to boot from the "installed"
system I don't get very far. Below is a transcript. Any ideas?
Andru
$ pdp11 sys3.simh.bootstrap
PDP-11 simulator V2.10-3
RL: creating new file
Create bad block table on last track? [N]
UNIX tape boot loader
UNIX -- Initial Load: Tape-to-Disk
The type of disk drive on which the Root file system will reside,
as well as the type of tape drive that will be used for Tape 1
must be specified below.
Answer the questions with a 'y' or 'n' followed by
a carriage return or line feed.
There is no type-ahead -- wait for the question to complete.
The character '@' will kill the entire line,
while the character '#' will erase the last character typed.
RP03 at address 176710?: n
RP04/5/6 at address 176700?: n
RL01 at address 174400?: y
Drive number (0-3)?: 0
Disk drive 0 selected.
Mount a formatted pack on drive 0.
Ready?: y
TU10/TM11 at address 172520?: y
Drive number (0-7)?: 0
Tape drive 0 selected.
The tape on drive 0 will be read from the current position
at 800bpi, 5120 characters (10 blocks) per record,
and written onto the pack on drive 0 starting at block 0.
Ready?: y
Size of filesystem to be copied is 6000 blocks.
What is the pack volume label? (e.g. p0001):
The pack will be labelled p0001.
The boot block for your type of disk drive will now be installed.
The file system copy is now complete.
To boot the basic unix for your disk and tape drives
as indicated above, mount this pack on drive 0
and read in the boot block (block 0) using
whatever means you have available; see romboot(8), 70boot(8).
Then boot the program unixrltm using diskboot(8).
Normally: #0=unixrltm
The system will initially come up single-user; see init(8).
If you have an upper case only console terminal,
you must execute: stty lcase; see stty(1).
After UNIX is up, link the file unixrltm to unix using ln(1).
# ln /unixrltm /unix
Set the date(1).
Good Luck!
The tape will now be rewound.
HALT instruction, PC: 002460 (BR 2456)
sim> boot rl0
#0=unixrltm
ka6 = 1512
aps = 141774
pc = 1476 ps = 30010
trap type 0
ka6 = 1512
aps = 141666
pc = 113444 ps = 30300
trap type 0
panic: trap
Andu
wouldn't be easier to load it through dsk (I mean download the complete tar
and make a dsk out of it) .
zmkm
>From: Andru Luvisi <luvisi(a)andru.sonoma.edu>
>Reply-To: Andru Luvisi <luvisi(a)andru.sonoma.edu>
>To: tuhs(a)tuhs.org
>Subject: [TUHS] Installing SysIII on simh?
>Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:36:48 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I am having difficulty installing SysIII on simh. I have attached my simh
>pdp11 ini file (sys3.simh.bootstrap) and the Perl script used to create
>the install tape (mksys3tap.pl). Everything seems to go fine while
>installing the miniroot, but when I try to boot from the "installed"
>system I don't get very far. Below is a transcript. Any ideas?
>
>Andru
>
>
>$ pdp11 sys3.simh.bootstrap
>
>PDP-11 simulator V2.10-3
>RL: creating new file
>Create bad block table on last track? [N]
>UNIX tape boot loader
>UNIX -- Initial Load: Tape-to-Disk
>
>The type of disk drive on which the Root file system will reside,
>as well as the type of tape drive that will be used for Tape 1
>must be specified below.
>
>Answer the questions with a 'y' or 'n' followed by
>a carriage return or line feed.
>There is no type-ahead -- wait for the question to complete.
>The character '@' will kill the entire line,
>while the character '#' will erase the last character typed.
>
>RP03 at address 176710?: n
>RP04/5/6 at address 176700?: n
>RL01 at address 174400?: y
>Drive number (0-3)?: 0
>Disk drive 0 selected.
>
>Mount a formatted pack on drive 0.
>Ready?: y
>
>TU10/TM11 at address 172520?: y
>Drive number (0-7)?: 0
>Tape drive 0 selected.
>
>The tape on drive 0 will be read from the current position
>at 800bpi, 5120 characters (10 blocks) per record,
>and written onto the pack on drive 0 starting at block 0.
>
>Ready?: y
>Size of filesystem to be copied is 6000 blocks.
>What is the pack volume label? (e.g. p0001):
>The pack will be labelled p0001.
>The boot block for your type of disk drive will now be installed.
>
>The file system copy is now complete.
>
>To boot the basic unix for your disk and tape drives
>as indicated above, mount this pack on drive 0
>and read in the boot block (block 0) using
>whatever means you have available; see romboot(8), 70boot(8).
>
>Then boot the program unixrltm using diskboot(8).
>Normally: #0=unixrltm
>
>The system will initially come up single-user; see init(8).
>If you have an upper case only console terminal,
>you must execute: stty lcase; see stty(1).
>
>After UNIX is up, link the file unixrltm to unix using ln(1).
> # ln /unixrltm /unix
>
>Set the date(1).
>
>Good Luck!
>
>The tape will now be rewound.
>
>
>HALT instruction, PC: 002460 (BR 2456)
>sim> boot rl0
>#0=unixrltm
>ka6 = 1512
>aps = 141774
>pc = 1476 ps = 30010
>trap type 0
>ka6 = 1512
>aps = 141666
>pc = 113444 ps = 30300
>trap type 0
>panic: trap
>
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