TUHS July 2002

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14 discussions

by norman＠nose.cita.utoronto.ca

I've assembled some notes from old manuals and other sources on the formats used for on-disk file systems through the Seventh Edition: http://www.cita.utoronto.ca/~norman/old-unix/old-fs.html Additional notes, comments on style, and whatnot are welcome. (It may be sensible to send anything in the last two categories directly to me, rather than to the whole list.)

2 years, 6 months

v7 upgrade

by Al Kossow

There were ports of PCC to the 8086, Z8000, and 68000 done by MIT's Laboratory for Computer Science. This might be a more historically correct place to start.

22 years, 3 months

SVID?

by Larry McVoy

In the "it would be nice" department, I'd love more copies of the 1986 3 volume SVID. If people have copies of these sitting around, I'll pay for them. I could use a dozen sets. Thanks in advance (he says hopefully :) -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm

22 years, 3 months

[Bourne shell] SVR1

by Sven Mascheck

Hello, I'm searching for documentation about the SVR1 shell: i would be glad if somebody could dig up e.g. a man page or the 1st edition of the SVID (System V Interface Definition). I'm interested in the history of the Bourne shell, and this is the last important variant i'm missing (my current knowledge documented in .sig). I know the short "changes" paragraph in the 2nd SVID, however a few points are still unclear to me. Sven -- <http://www.uni-ulm.de/~s_smasch/various/bourne/>

22 years, 3 months

Re: [TUHS] Copies of 1978 and 1984 BSTJ on Unix; what should I do with them?

by Aharon Robbins

> (Does anyone know how many copies of BSTJ vol. 57, no. 6 there are out there?) Bell Labs reprinted this volume, it was popular for a while. I bought my copy circa 1981 simply by writing to the address listed and sending a check for whatever amount it said. Arnold

22 years, 4 months

Re: [TUHS] Copies of 1978 and 1984 BSTJ on Unix; what should I do with them?

by Bryan Cantrill

> Dear UNIX Hertigate Society, > > I was wondering if you could tell me if these two journals are worth > anything and to whom. > > WHile I haven't done Unix work since 1992. When I picked these journals > up in 1986 out of computer engineering school I had a sense they were > something special. I believe the Bell System Technical Journal > July/August 1978 Vol. 57, No. 6., Part 2 is one of the first places that > Ritchie and THomson publicly described the design of Unix. > > They are both in reasonably good condition. Do you know if they are > worth anything? Do you know who might be interested in them? They are certainly worth something. (And, being finite, will probably be worth more in the future.) If they mean something to you personally, you should probably hold on to them. If you want to sell them, I would recommend eBay (which seems to be the best venue for selling used computer manuals at the moment). Be sure to include a write-up of what makes these two volumes so special. Note that BSTJ vol. 57, no. 6 will likely fetch a much higher price than vol. 63, no. 8. (I've bought the latter for as little as ten bucks.) (Does anyone know how many copies of BSTJ vol. 57, no. 6 there are out there?) - Bryan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bryan Cantrill, Solaris Kernel Development. bmc(a)eng.sun.com (650) 786-3652

22 years, 4 months

Copies of 1978 and 1984 BSTJ on Unix; what should I do with them?

by Sylvan.Stephan＠epamail.epa.gov

Dear UNIX Hertigate Society, I was wondering if you could tell me if these two journals are worth anything and to whom. WHile I haven't done Unix work since 1992. When I picked these journals up in 1986 out of computer engineering school I had a sense they were something special. I believe the Bell System Technical Journal July/August 1978 Vol. 57, No. 6., Part 2 is one of the first places that Ritchie and THomson publicly described the design of Unix. They are both in reasonably good condition. Do you know if they are worth anything? Do you know who might be interested in them? THanks! Stephan Sylvan

22 years, 4 months

Distributions directory and UCB, and missing ftp site

by Gregg C Levine

Hello from Gregg C Levine Folks, I've got a question here. What happened to the ftp site mentioned in this Readme file? I'll post it here, in its entirety, with the reference in question highlighted. Quoted Readme there: "The directories 2.9BSD and 2.11BSD contain these UNIX distributions, and " "were supplied by Steven Schultz. They contain a full distribution, including " "installation tape images. " " " "The remaining gzipped tar files are other 2BSD distributions supplied by" "Keith Bostic, except for spencer_2bsd.tar.gz which came from Henry Spencer." "They do not contain installation tape images. The 2.9BSD-Patch directory" "contains patches to 2.9BSD dated August 85, and again supplied by Keith Bostic." " " "Note that Steven Schultz is still maintaining 2.11BSD, fixing bugs and making" "improvements. The patches required to bring this archive version of 2.11BSD" "up to the current patch level can be obtained via anonymous ftp to" "ftp.iipo.gtegsc.com in the directory /pub/2.11BSD" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I have tried connecting to it, and my client tells me it does not exist. But I've seen Steve's message, on my earlier question, so I know he's here. Steve, are you continuing the work described in the file? And can you get back to me, via a private message. Warren both replies are valid. Gregg C Levine drwho8(a)worldnet.att.net "How many floors does this TARDIS of yours have, anyway?" P.S. Thanks to everyone for getting back to me so quickly on that issue regarding our old friend, and the historical items here.

22 years, 4 months

Re: [TUHS] Distributions directory and UCB, and missing ftp site

by Steven M. Schultz

Hi - > From: "Gregg C Levine" <drwho8(a)worldnet.att.net> > 2.11BSD" > "up to the current patch level can be obtained via anonymous ftp to" > "ftp.iipo.gtegsc.com in the directory /pub/2.11BSD" > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > I have tried connecting to it, and my client tells me it does not exist. But Indeed. That's the trouble/curse of the Internet - it's not possible to go around and fix/change all the references to names that change as companies get bought/sold That was a long long (quad_t? ;)) time ago. GTE sold their Government Systems Corporation ('gsc') to General Dynamics several years ago. After a while GTE of course insisted we stop using 'gtegsc' - then a little later GTE became Verizon. Try "ftp.to.gd-es.com" For now. The idjits in charge are playing at reorganizing and I think sometime next year the domain name will change yet again - but the hope is that the current name will be retained for a while as a compatibility measure. > Steve, are you continuing the work described in the file? And can you get It's been a slow couple years - only a couple updates done last year and only one or so this year. Current patchlevel's at 442 (done Jan 2002). Yes, the archive of updates is maintained. I think there are a couple mirrors but I have no accurate count of who is mirroring the directory Steven Schultz sms(a)2bsd.com

22 years, 4 months

Re: [TUHS] Re: Porting Unix v6 to i386

by Warren Toomey

In article by Sven Dehmlow: > Hi Warren, > I can't find the port [of V6 to the 286] in the archives. > Am I'm too stupid to search or haven't you added it yet? > Sven My apologies, I had forgotten to import it. It's now available at http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Other/V6on286 with the mirror sites to follow soon. Cheers, Warren

22 years, 4 months

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