On Sat, 16 Nov 2002, Mario Premke wrote:
> Hello Gregg, thanks for your immediate response !
> I recently found the article 'Booting 7th Edition UNIX Images' on the
> 'vmsnet.pdp-11'-Newsgroups:
>
> <--- SNIP --->
>
> ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/sim/sources/
> ftp://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/pub/PDP-11-sims/Supnik_2.2d/sources/
>
Try http://simh.trailing-edge.com
bill
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Hello Gregg, thanks for your immediate response !
I recently found the article 'Booting 7th Edition UNIX Images' on the
'vmsnet.pdp-11'-Newsgroups:
<--- SNIP --->
ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/sim/sources/
ftp://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/pub/PDP-11-sims/Supnik_2.2d/sources/
Once you get it, you have to compile the simulator. You also need to fetch
the 7th Edition UNIX disk images as well; they are available from the above
ftp sites in the software directory (i.e replace sources with …
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Unpack
the 7th Edition tarball in the same directory as the one you built the
simulator. The only file you require is disks/unix_v7_rl.dsk
<--- SNIP --->
What I wanted to say is that the above ftp-links are dead. You are right, I
should
look for the compressed tarball, but I don't know how the tarball is called
and
looking for 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' on google only leads to other dead links ...
Any hints ?
Mario Premke
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> Von: Gregg C Levine <hansolofalcon(a)worldnet.att.net>
> An: pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org
> Betreff: RE: [pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7
> Datum: Samstag, 16. November 2002 14:50
>
> Hello from Gregg C Levine
> How do you mean by that? " The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk'
> image I found are dead ... :-(" You said. How so? As I recall, that file
> that's in there, for unix_v7_rl.dsk" is there, it's a totally different
> UNIX_v7 file name, you need to call it that for the E11 product. For
> SIMH, the full name as rendered by the extraction process from the
> compressed file works.
> -------------------
> Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon(a)worldnet.att.net
> ------------------------------------------------------------
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pups-admin(a)minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:pups-admin@minnie.tuhs.org]
> On
> > Behalf Of Mario Premke
> > Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:25 AM
> > To: pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org
> > Subject: [pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7
> >
> > Hello,
> > I just read the instructions of how to boot a binary version 7 disk
> image
> > on a ersatz11 pdp11 emulator.
> > The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' image I found are dead ...
> :-(
> > Are there any other sites where I can download this binary
> distribution ??
> >
> > BTW their are disk dumps of version 7 in the Caldera ancient unix
> archive
> > .. is it possible to boot
> > them on ersatz11 as well ? I tried it a few times without success ...
> > I simply tried it with the following e11.ini (from a newsgroup
> discussion),
> > because I heavily lack
> > PDP 11 hardware knowledge. Nevertheless trying this ini-file and many
> > variations I made of it all
> > end up in a blank emulator screen ...
> >
> > Any ideas will be appreciated
> >
> > Mario Premke
> >
> > ; Set up some terminal devices
> > assign tt0: f1
> > assign tt1: f2
> > set scroll hard
> > ; Make the CPU like an 11/45
> > set cpu dspace
> > set cpu dualregset
> > set cpu mmtraps
> > set cpu pirq
> > set cpu spl
> > set cpu supmode
> > set cpu cpuerr
> > set cpu csm
> > set cpu tstset
> > ; Get rid of unneeded device
> delays
> > set delay dl11 0=0 1=0
> > set delay rl11 0=0 1=0 2=0 3=0 4=0 5=0 6=0 7=0
> > ; Mount the RL02 disk image
> > mount dl0: v7_rl.dsk
> > ; and boot
> > boot dl0:
> >
> >
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Hello from Gregg C Levine
How do you mean by that? " The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk'
image I found are dead ... :-(" You said. How so? As I recall, that file
that's in there, for unix_v7_rl.dsk" is there, it's a totally different
UNIX_v7 file name, you need to call it that for the E11 product. For
SIMH, the full name as rendered by the extraction process from the
compressed file works.
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Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon(a)worldnet.att.net
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pups-admin(a)minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:pups-admin@minnie.tuhs.org]
On
> Behalf Of Mario Premke
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:25 AM
> To: pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org
> Subject: [pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7
>
> Hello,
> I just read the instructions of how to boot a binary version 7 disk
image
> on a ersatz11 pdp11 emulator.
> The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' image I found are dead ...
:-(
> Are there any other sites where I can download this binary
distribution ??
>
> BTW their are disk dumps of version 7 in the Caldera ancient unix
archive
> .. is it possible to boot
> them on ersatz11 as well ? I tried it a few times without success ...
> I simply tried it with the following e11.ini (from a newsgroup
discussion),
> because I heavily lack
> PDP 11 hardware knowledge. Nevertheless trying this ini-file and many
> variations I made of it all
> end up in a blank emulator screen ...
>
> Any ideas will be appreciated
>
> Mario Premke
>
> ; Set up some terminal devices
> assign tt0: f1
> assign tt1: f2
> set scroll hard
> ; Make the CPU like an 11/45
> set cpu dspace
> set cpu dualregset
> set cpu mmtraps
> set cpu pirq
> set cpu spl
> set cpu supmode
> set cpu cpuerr
> set cpu csm
> set cpu tstset
> ; Get rid of unneeded device
delays
> set delay dl11 0=0 1=0
> set delay rl11 0=0 1=0 2=0 3=0 4=0 5=0 6=0 7=0
> ; Mount the RL02 disk image
> mount dl0: v7_rl.dsk
> ; and boot
> boot dl0:
>
>
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> PUPS mailing list
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Hello,
I just read the instructions of how to boot a binary version 7 disk image
on a ersatz11 pdp11 emulator.
The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' image I found are dead ... :-(
Are there any other sites where I can download this binary distribution ??
BTW their are disk dumps of version 7 in the Caldera ancient unix archive
.. is it possible to boot
them on ersatz11 as well ? I tried it a few times without success ...
I simply tried it with the following e11.ini (from a newsgroup …
[View More]discussion),
because I heavily lack
PDP 11 hardware knowledge. Nevertheless trying this ini-file and many
variations I made of it all
end up in a blank emulator screen ...
Any ideas will be appreciated
Mario Premke
; Set up some terminal devices
assign tt0: f1
assign tt1: f2
set scroll hard
; Make the CPU like an 11/45
set cpu dspace
set cpu dualregset
set cpu mmtraps
set cpu pirq
set cpu spl
set cpu supmode
set cpu cpuerr
set cpu csm
set cpu tstset
; Get rid of unneeded device delays
set delay dl11 0=0 1=0
set delay rl11 0=0 1=0 2=0 3=0 4=0 5=0 6=0 7=0
; Mount the RL02 disk image
mount dl0: v7_rl.dsk
; and boot
boot dl0:
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Hello,
I just read the instructions of how to boot a binary version 7 disk image
on a ersatz11 pdp11 emulator.
The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' image I found are dead ... :-(
Are there any other sites where I can download this binary distribution ??
BTW their are disk dumps of version 7 in the Caldera ancient unix archive
. is it possible to boot
them on ersatz11 as well ? I tried it a few times without success ...
I simply tried it with the following e11.ini (from a newsgroup …
[View More]discussion),
because I heavily lack
PDP 11 hardware knowledge. Nevertheless trying this ini-file and many
variations I made of it all
end up in a blank emulator screen ...
Any ideas will be appreciated
Mario Premke
(Please, send a return mail to my E-Mail address, since I am not on the
list ..)
; Set up some terminal devices
assign tt0: f1
assign tt1: f2
set scroll hard
; Make the CPU like an 11/45
set cpu dspace
set cpu dualregset
set cpu mmtraps
set cpu pirq
set cpu spl
set cpu supmode
set cpu cpuerr
set cpu csm
set cpu tstset
; Get rid of unneeded device delays
set delay dl11 0=0 1=0
set delay rl11 0=0 1=0 2=0 3=0 4=0 5=0 6=0 7=0
; Mount the RL02 disk image
mount dl0: v7_rl.dsk
; and boot
boot dl0:
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I recall a thread about this only a few months ago. Check out the TUHS mail archive - I seem to recall that someone had ported V7 to the x86 architecture. Me, I have a PDP-11/34 in my basement.... -- Ian
________________________________
From: Jesper Jacobsson [mailto:jesperjacobsson@yahoo.se]
Sent: Sat 11/9/2002 2:18 PM
To: tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] port of old unices to i386?
Hi there.
I am a linux-user and I came across TUHS for the first time today
actually …
[View More]when I was searching google for old unices. I love linux and
am very interested in the history of unix. For some time I have wanted
to try out some early versions of unix as I am in my early 20's and was
born too late to have been around those days :( I havn't found any
people to ask about this till today :) Anyway, I browsed the
filearchive and I guess the distributions there surely won't work on my
computer. Is there a way to get them work on a i386 computer? Have
someone made any ports of an early unix system to i386 out of
nostalgia? If not, could someone take it on as a hobbyproject so that
new generations of unix-like-OS-users can explore it? It would be both
fun and also very educational to play around with I am sure.
I hope this email gets through and that I didn't annoy you guys.
I have not signed up for this list I just emailed tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org
directly and hoped it would get through :) Please send replies to
jesperjacobsson(a)yahoo.se
Answers would be very appriciated!
Thanks in advance,
Jesper
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Hi there.
I am a linux-user and I came across TUHS for the first time today
actually when I was searching google for old unices. I love linux and
am very interested in the history of unix. For some time I have wanted
to try out some early versions of unix as I am in my early 20's and was
born too late to have been around those days :( I havn't found any
people to ask about this till today :) Anyway, I browsed the
filearchive and I guess the distributions there surely won't work on my
computer. …
[View More]Is there a way to get them work on a i386 computer? Have
someone made any ports of an early unix system to i386 out of
nostalgia? If not, could someone take it on as a hobbyproject so that
new generations of unix-like-OS-users can explore it? It would be both
fun and also very educational to play around with I am sure.
I hope this email gets through and that I didn't annoy you guys.
I have not signed up for this list I just emailed tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org
directly and hoped it would get through :) Please send replies to
jesperjacobsson(a)yahoo.se
Answers would be very appriciated!
Thanks in advance,
Jesper
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Gratis e-mail resten av livet på www.yahoo.se/mail
Busenkelt!
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Hi Mitch,
you'll find the program enblock.c at
http://www.ba-stuttgart.de/~helbig/os/v6/
that I wrote to prepare the v6 distribution tape for SIMH.
With v7, you need to apply different block sizes like (f0, f1, ... f6 from Keith Bostic):
enblock <f0 >dist.tap
enblock <f1 >>dist.tap
...
enblock <f4 >>dist.tap
enblock 10240 <f5 >>dist.tap
enblock 10240 <f6 >>dist.tap
enblock </dev/null >>dist.tap
Enblock puts an EOF tapemark at the end.…
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Have fun,
Wolfgang
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----- Forwarded message from Jorn Barger -----
From: jorn(a)enteract.com (Jorn Barger)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 04:09:15 -0700
I'm not a PUPS subscriber, but I've been browsing the archives and I
wonder if you know anything about this?
In an old Byte (Jan 1981, p200) Sol Libes wrote:
> "UNIX-Like Operating Systems Increasing In Popularity:
> Several software suppliers are now offering UNIX-like
> operating systems that may rival CP/M. The first
> UNIX-like software …
[View More]package, called TYNIX, was released
> for LSI-11 and Heath H-11 systems in 1978 by the
> Boston Children's Museum..."
My guess is that this was Heinz Lycklama's unreleasable LSI-Unix (LSX),
and I've written him to enquire, but haven't heard back yet.
[ you're probably right, but I'd assume that it was a
binary-only release - Warren ]
I'm working on a detailed timeline of Linux prehistory, so I'm also
following your Xenix explorations. I'd really like to know who did the
first x86 Xenix, HCR or MS?
[ I thought it was HCR too, but I could be wrong - Warren ]
----- End of forwarded message from Jorn Barger -----
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Hi Folks,
Does anyone know how to build a full distribution tape in Simh format? Or am I over looking something simple? I can boot and run the root RL02 image but would like install the full system. Would like to do the same for the 4.3 and the VAX Simh.
Thanks, Mitch
