Yes, I know, but some of that SW development is being automated ... I'm not saying it will totally go away, but the numbers will become smaller, and the number of people who know how to do it will become smaller, and the quality will continue to deteriorate. The number of people who can detect quality problems before the failures they cause, will also get smaller. Not extinct, but endangered, and we are all endangered by the quality problems. On 01/21/2023 11:12 AM, arnold(a)skeeve.com wrote: > Real computers with keyboards etc won't go away; think about > all those servers running the backends of the apps and the > databases for the cool stuff on the phones. Someone is still > going to have to write those bits. > > Arnold > > Luther Johnson luther(a)makerlisp.com wrote: > > > Well, that's a comforting thought, I hope it goes that way. > > > > On 01/19/2023 06:10 PM, John Cowan wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 5:23 PM Luther Johnson <luther(a)makerlisp.com > > > mailto:luther@makerlisp.com> wrote: > > > > > > Computers that are not smart phone-like are definitely on the > > > endangered > > > species list. You know, the kind on a desk, with a keyboard ... > > > > > > I don't have statistics for this, but I doubt it. Consider amateur > > > radio, which has been around for a century now. Amateur stations are > > > an ever-shrinking fraction of all transmitters, to say nothing of > > > receivers, but in absolute terms there are now more than 2 million > > > hams in the world, which is almost certainly more than ever.