[moved to COFF] On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 4:16 AM Andy Kosela &lt;akosela(a)andykosela.com&gt; wrote: First off, what is stopping you from providing free, public access to those services? I don't know where you are, but I have orders of magnitude more access to freely available content and services than I ever did in the heyday of Usenet, etc. And for most of it, one doesn't have to be highly technical to use it. "Free" was never really true, as it required massive subsidies of equipment, power, bandwidth and employee time, usually w/o the direct knowledge or consent of the entities paying for it. It reminds me of the lemonade stands I'd occasionally run as a kid, which were "profitable" to me because mom and dad, with their knowledge and consent, let me pretend that the costs were $0. -- Nevin ":-)" Liber <mailto:nevin@eviloverlord.com> +1-847-691-1404