2 Sep
2021
2 Sep
'21
10:10 p.m.
In 1752 we switched to the Gregorian calendar, with the peasants revolting
(as if they weren't already) because they thought they'd lost 11 days of
their lives.
What does "cal 9 1752" show on your boxes?
-- Dave
2 Sep
2 Sep
11:40 p.m.
From 4.3BSD Quasijarus:
$ cal 9 1752
September 1752
S M Tu W Th F S
1 2 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
Cheers!
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On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 6:32 PM Dave Horsfall <dave(a)horsfall.org> wrote:
In 1752 we switched to the Gregorian calendar, with
the peasants revolting
(as if they weren't already) because they thought they'd lost 11 days of
their lives.
What does "cal 9 1752" show on your boxes?
-- Dave
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11:40 p.m.
On Friday, 3 September 2021 at 8:10:38 +1000, Dave Horsfall wrote:
In 1752 we switched to the Gregorian calendar, with
the peasants revolting
(as if they weren't already) because they thought they'd lost 11 days of
their lives.
What does "cal 9 1752" show on your boxes?
Presumably the same as on yours:
September 1752
Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa
1 2 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
I tried it on Apple and Linux box and got the same result, including
trailing spaces. In each case the man page indicates a derivation
from FreeBSD.
The real question is when 259 years ago today was.
Greg
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3 Sep
12:03 a.m.
On 2021-09-02 19:40, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
Same on Solaris 10 with the following excerpt from the man page.
NOTES
An unusual calendar is printed for September 1752. That is
the month 11 days were skipped to make up for lack of leap
year adjustments. To see this calendar, type:
cal 9 1752
N.
On Friday, 3 September 2021 at 8:10:38 +1000, Dave
Horsfall wrote:
> In 1752 we switched to the Gregorian calendar, with the peasants revolting
> (as if they weren't already) because they thought they'd lost 11 days of
> their lives.
My understanding for the revolt -- though I cannot think of a reference
offhand -- was that landlords charged a full month's rent for the
reduced month.
What does
"cal 9 1752" show on your boxes?
Presumably the same as on yours:
September 1752
Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa
1 2 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
I tried it on Apple and Linux box and got the same result, including
trailing spaces. In each case the man page indicates a derivation
from FreeBSD. The real question is when 259 years ago today was.
Well, we have the question every leap year on February 29.
N.
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12:54 a.m.
On 9/2/21 6:03 PM, Nemo Nusquam wrote:
Well, we have the question every leap year on February
29.
A friend was born on February 29th. She's both X and X ÷ 4 years old.
It's usually worth a chuckle. I make a point to wish her a happy
birthday on February 28th three out of four years. The forth year, I'm
lazy and delay by a day. }:-)
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1:10 a.m.
On Thursday, 2 September 2021 at 18:54:50 -0600, COFF wrote:
On 9/2/21 6:03 PM, Nemo Nusquam wrote:
I have been married twice. First wife was born on 28 February on a
leap year, second wife on 1 March 3 years earlier. We can't agree on
the age difference.
The other reference, of course, is Gilbert and Sullivan's "The Pirates
of Penzance", where Frederic, the hero, was born on 29 February 1860
and apprenticed to a band of pirates until his 21st birthday (a
paradox: 29 February 1940).
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Well, we have the question every leap year on
February 29.
A friend was born on February 29th. She's both X and X ÷ 4 years old.
It's usually worth a chuckle. I make a point to wish her a happy
birthday on February 28th three out of four years. The forth year, I'm
lazy and delay by a day. }:-)
4:58 a.m.
On Fri, 3 Sep 2021, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
The other reference, of course, is Gilbert and
Sullivan's "The Pirates
of Penzance", where Frederic, the hero, was born on 29 February 1860 and
apprenticed to a band of pirates until his 21st birthday (a paradox: 29
February 1940).
Yes, that one is a classic; he could only celebrate his 21st every 4
years...
-- Dave
12:58 a.m.
On Thursday, 2 September 2021 at 20:03:20 -0400, Nemo Nusquam wrote:
On 2021-09-02 19:40, Greg 'groggy' Lehey
wrote:
Hmm. I thought it was because the tax was paid in kind, and the
change meant that they were due before the harvest was done. But it
seems that we're all wrong: the riots probably never happened.
The normal taxes weren't affected. Before the change, the tax year
ended on Lady Day (25 March), but this was changed to 5 April, still
the case today. And interestingly, it seems that before the change
the calendar year also changed on Lady Day, so 24 March 1750 was
followed by 25 March 1751. This, too, was changed.
More at
https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/Give-us-our-eleven-d…
and of course
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_(New_Style)_Act_1750
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On Friday, 3 September 2021 at 8:10:38 +1000,
Dave Horsfall wrote:
> In 1752 we switched to the Gregorian calendar, with the peasants revolting
> (as if they weren't already) because they thought they'd lost 11 days of
> their lives.
My understanding for the revolt -- though I cannot think of a reference
offhand -- was that landlords charged a full month's rent for the
reduced month. 
9:28 a.m.
Dave Horsfall <dave(a)horsfall.org> writes:
In 1752 we switched to the Gregorian calendar, [...]
Speak for yourself! :)
England transitioned in 1752, as you say, but here in Norway, we made
that change in 1700, skipping from February 18th to March 1st. Other
countries changed at other times - Russia as late as 1918.
The funniest transition was done by Sweden, though. They decided to
transition over a period of forty years, by skipping leap days. They
dropped the leap day in 1700, then forgot to do it in 1704 and 1708,
gave up and went back to the Julian calendar in 1711, and stayed with
that until 1753, when February 17th was followed by March 1st.
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10:24 a.m.
Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via COFF <coff(a)minnie.tuhs.org> wrote:
The funniest transition was done by Sweden, though. They decided to
transition over a period of forty years, by skipping leap days. They
dropped the leap day in 1700, then forgot to do it in 1704 and 1708,
gave up and went back to the Julian calendar in 1711, and stayed with
that until 1753, when February 17th was followed by March 1st.
It's even more funny than that :-) They actually went back to the Julian
calendar in 1712, and they needed to add back the leap day they skipped in
1700; this extra day became February 30th.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_non-standard_dates#February_30
Tony.
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On Wed, 8 Sep 2021, Tony Finch wrote:
It's even more funny than that :-) They actually
went back to the Julian
calendar in 1712, and they needed to add back the leap day they skipped in
1700; this extra day became February 30th.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_non-standard_dates#February_30
Oh, my sainted aunt...
-- Dave
8:36 p.m.
On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, 7:25 AM Dave Horsfall <dave(a)horsfall.org> wrote:
On Wed, 8 Sep 2021, Tony Finch wrote:
This is the example I give to people who say calendars are easy...
Also, I use it in my screeds against the current observational nature of
leap seconds.
Warner
-- Dave
It's even more funny than that :-) They
actually went back to the Julian
calendar in 1712, and they needed to add back the leap day they skipped
in
1700; this extra day became February 30th.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_non-standard_dates#February_30
Oh, my sainted aunt...
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Ah, leap seconds. I work for an observatory. Some things are in TAI and some are in UTC.
At least now I know what to look for when something is 37 seconds off.
Adam
On Sep 8, 2021, at 1:36 PM, Warner Losh
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On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, 7:25 AM Dave Horsfall <dave(a)horsfall.org
<mailto:dave@horsfall.org>> wrote:
On Wed, 8 Sep 2021, Tony Finch wrote:
It's even more funny than that :-) They
actually went back to the Julian
calendar in 1712, and they needed to add back the leap day they skipped in
1700; this extra day became February 30th.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_non-standard_dates#February_30
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_non-standard_dates#February_30>
Oh, my sainted aunt...
This is the example I give to people who say calendars are easy...
Also, I use it in my screeds against the current observational nature of leap seconds.
Warner
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cal 9 1752
September 1752
Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa
1 2 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
959
days inactive
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Warner Losh