16 Sep
2023
16 Sep
'23
8:11 a.m.
People expressing their individuality/personality/opinons in their
signature doesn't bother me. I hang out in this community because
we do have much in common (computing wise) but it would be a boring
world if every one was the same. Another reason is that many computer
people are curious by nature and dive deep in more than one field and
usually offer well thought out opinions. Kind of modern versions of
the Renaissance men (regardless of their gender). Such people also
tend to be more "far out" from the norm. They have a unique way of
looking at the world is why they are innovators, artists, scientists
etc. People who write a filesystem / applications / drivers / packages /
windowing system are not interesting just because of what they produced
but because they likely have so many more interesting sides to them!
So I certainly want to know more about them (without being nosy).
I don't have to agree with them on everything (or anything) but I can
still respect them and do (unless they do/say things to lose that).
So let us have more interesting discussions and not dwell on such things
nor get bent out of shape by people expressing whatever they care about
in their signature.
On Sep 15, 2023, at 6:04 PM, Larry McVoy
<lm(a)mcvoy.com> wrote:
I think Mary Ann gets a bit of a pass because she is part of the Unix
history. That said, I'm not a fan of people pushing their personal
issues into the commons.
It's a hard one, you want to support Mary Ann, and people like her, but
it's also a bit much to have .signatures pushing their books.
I really don't know how to make a call on this, not that it is my place
to do so, I'm just trying think it through.
Personally, I'd like things to stay more about Unix and COFF stuff and
less about personal stuff. Your personal business is your personal
business and I'm not a big fan of people making their personal business
my business. But that might be just me.
On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 04:28:17PM -0700, Anthony Martin wrote:
Warren Toomey via TUHS <tuhs(a)tuhs.org> once
said:
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Larry McVoy Retired to fishing http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/boat The history of Unix is not just of the
technology, but also of the
people involved, their successes and travails, and the communities
that they built. Mary Ann referenced a book about her life and
journey in her e-mail's .sig. She is a very important figure in the
history of Unix and I think her .sig is entirely relevant to TUHS.
Are you fine with everyone advertising whatever views
and products they want in their signatures or would I
have to be a very important figure?
If I want to say, for example, that the vast amount of
software related to Unix that came out of Berkeley was
so harmful it should have a retroactive Prop 65 label,
would that be okay to have in my signature?
Cheers,
Anthony
The vast amount of software related to Unix that came
out of Berkeley was so harmful it should have a
retroactive Prop 65 label.
[Quote from some person completely unrelated to Unix.]
[A link to buy my children's picture book about the
tenuous connection between Unix and the NATO terror
bombing of Yugoslavia, direct from Jeff Beelzebub's
bookstore.]
End of signature.
Sorry Warren, I couldn't help myself. I was "triggered"
just like Dan Cross, previously in that thread, who could
not stay silent.
"Silence is violence, folx."
- Sus of size (a.k.a. postmodernist Porky Pig)
Sent to COFF as Dan should have done.