April 2021 - COFF - www.tuhs.org

by Dan Cross

He announced it on Twitter. I'm sure we all wish him well and a speedy recovery. Note, his tweet says that he is recovering. https://twitter.com/vgcerf/status/1244636584508604417?s=20

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On the rise and fall of Gopher

by Michael Kjörling

The EFF just published an article on the rise and fall of Gopher on their Deeplinks blog. "Gopher: When Adversarial Interoperability Burrowed Under the Gatekeepers' Fortresses" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/02/gopher-when-adversarial-interoperabil… I thought it might be of interest to people here. -- Michael Kjörling • https://michael.kjorling.se • michael(a)kjorling.se “Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”

3 years, 7 months

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DEC terminal line driver chips?

by Tom Ivar Helbekkmo

I've got a number of DEC terminals, ranging from the VT220 to the VT520 (sadly, I got rid of my VT100 and VT102 many years ago, before I started collecting DEC equipment instead of just using it), and some of them have one or more burned out serial ports. Before I start taking them apart to find out what chips were used, I figured I'd check if any of you folks happen to know. I'd like to order a stash of replacements, and it would be nice to have them handy before I clear the work bench to start dismantling terminals... Oh, and for the record: the Q-bus PDP-11/23 uses 9636ACP and 9637ACP for output and input, respectively, while the VAX-11/630 substitutes a 9639ATC optocoupler for the 9637ACP differential receiver. (I have a couple of spare CPU boards with damaged ports, as well, so these are all on my shopping list already.) -tih -- Most people who graduate with CS degrees don't understand the significance of Lisp. Lisp is the most important idea in computer science. --Alan Kay

3 years, 7 months

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Dilbert on Unix

by Dave Horsfall

https://dilbert.com/strip/1993-11-09/ Ageless... -- Dave

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Re: [COFF] Happy birthday, the Internet!

by Rudi Blom

did you know ... capitalising internet means you have to hold the shift-key -- the more I learn the better I understand I know nothing.

3 years, 8 months

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Re: [COFF] Happy birthday, the Internet!

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

Re: [COFF] Happy birthday, the Internet! > From: Jim Carpenter > But even that isn't really correct, as the Internet is a network of > networks and Arpanet was all alone. Correct: the ARPANET was merely an ancestor (albeit an important one) of the Internet. (The most important, in terms of technical influence, was CYCLADES, "the key intermediate technical step between the ARPANET and the Internet".) The ARPANET was later sort of subsumed into the Internet, as its original long-haul backbone ("sort of" because the ARPANET's main protocol was discarded, in doing so), but that's not too important. If you want to select _a_ birthday for the Internet, I'd pick the day they settled on the IPv4 packet format; we know when that was, it was the second day of the 15/16 June, 1978 meeting (see IEN-68). I'm not wedded to that date, if someone has a better suugestion (e.g. the firt PRNET to ARPNET test), I'm open to hearing why the alternative's preferable. Noel

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Happy birthday, the Internet!

by Dave Horsfall

Born on this day in 1969 with the publication of RFC-1 "Host Software" by Steve Crocker, it basically specified the ARPAnet and the IMPs. Oh, and it really peeves me when the stupid media call it "the internet"; it's a proper noun, hence is capitalised. -- Dave

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how was TCF different or similar to Mosix

by Clem Cole

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 1:50 PM Theodore Ts'o <tytso(a)mit.edu> wrote: > Out of curiousity, how was TCF different or similar to Mosix? > Many similar ideas. TCF was basically the commercial implementation of the Locus, which Jerry and students built at UCLA (one 11/70s original). I want to say the Locus papers are in some early SOSPs. MOSIX was its own Unix-like OS, as was Locus [and some of this was in Sprite too BTW]. TCF was a huge number of rewrites to BSD and was UNIX. The local/remote restructuring was ad-hoc. By the time Roman and I lead TNF, we had created a formal VPROC layer as an analog to the VFS layer (more in a minute). TNC was to be the gut of Intel's Paragon using OSF/1 as base OS. The basic idea of all of them is that the cluster is looks like a single protection domain with nodes contributing resources. A Larry says a ps is cluster-wide. TCF had the idea of features that each node provides (ISA, floating-point unit, AP, *etc*..) so if a process needed specific resources, it would only run on a node that had those resources. But it also meant that processes could be migrated from a node that had the same resources. One of the coolest demos I ever saw was we took a new unconfigured PS/2 at a trade show and connected the ethernet to it on the trade show network, and put in a boot floppy. We dialed back into a system at an LCC, and filled in some security things, details like the IP address of the new system and soon it booted and joined the cluster. It immediately started to add services to the cluster, we walked away, and (overnight) the system had set up the hard disk and started caching locally things that were needed for speed. Later I was editing a file and from another screen migrated the process around the cluster while the editing was active. The problem with VPROC (like VFS) is it takes surgery all over the kernel. In fact, for Linux 2.x kernel the OpenSSI <https://sourceforge.net/projects/ssic-linux/> folks did all the kernel work to virtualize the concept of process, which sadly never got picked up as the kernel.org folks did not like it (a real shame IMO). BTW, one of the neat side effects of a layer like VPROC is things like checkpoint/restart are free -- you are just migrating a process to the storage instead of an active processor. Anyway, Mosix has a lot of the same types of ideas. I have much less experience with it directly.

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Re: [COFF] [TUHS] Zombified SCO comes back from the dead, brings trial back to life against IBM

by Theodore Ts'o

On Fri, Apr 02, 2021 at 09:11:47AM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote: > > Long before Linus released Linux into the wild in 1990 for the >>386<< much > > less any other ISA, IBM had been shipping as a product AIX/370 (and AIX/PS2 > > for the 386); which we developed at Locus for them. The user-space was > > mostly System V, the kernel was based on BSD (4.1 originally) pluis a great > > deal of customization, including of course the Locus OS work, which IBM > > called TCF - the transparent computing facility. It was very cool you > > could cluster 370s and PS/2 and from >>any<< node run a program of either > > ISA. It has been well discussed in this forum, previously. > > It's really a shame that TCF didn't get more widespread usage/traction. > That's exactly what BitMover wanted to do, I wanted to scale small cheap > SMPs in a cluster with a TCF layer on it. I gave some talks about it, > it obviously went nowhere but might have if we had TCF as a starting > point. TCF was cool. (Moving this to COFF...) Out of curiousity, how was TCF different or similar to Mosix? - Ted

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