[TUHS] FreeBSD behind the times? (was: Favorite unix design principles?)
lm at mcvoy.com
Sun Jan 31 09:17:50 AEST 2021
On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 10:11:19AM +1100, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> > I remember when Linux was this bad in the .90ish releases. A long
> > time ago. Now their install is painless, it's every bit as good as
> > Windows and maybe better.
> FWIW, I find Microsoft "Windows" installation terminally confusing
> (that's what you were talking about, right?). And I've run into
> serious problems with various Linux installations too. That doesn't
> make the FreeBSD tools better, but maybe it relativizes it.
Um, my mother could install any Linux system today and 10-20 years ago.
There is not the slightest chance that she could install FreeBSD.
> The FreeBSD installer *does* install X if you select it.
Linux installers start in X. No "select it" required.
> You're still talking about the installer, aren't you?
Yup. If FreeBSD wants anyone to use it, fix that installer. 99.99%
of people would give up after seeing that, you'd never get them to
> > They've done some good stuff in the kernel but it's not an end user
> > system,
> There I have to agree with you. A little TLC would go a long way.
> But I hope that you're not advocating the "change your GUI with your
> underwear" attitude that Microsoft, Apple and many Linux distros
> have. One of the reasons I don't use Linux is because every time I
> try, the interface has changed.
Try xubuntu, that's what I use. Pretty light weight UI but all the
parts are there and it doesn't change much.
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