[TUHS] ACM Fellow, Ken Thompson
heinz at osta.com
Wed Jan 20 15:21:19 AEST 2021
No relation to either V32 or V7. When we started the project
we used the existing version of UNIX that we were selling on
the PDP 11/45 and PDP 11/70 computers. I believe it was V6.
I wrote a lot of documentation and gave a lot of talks and
presentations on the system, but never kept any of the
documentation myself. There may be some documentation
in someone's archives but I did not keep any.
On 1/19/2021 2:33 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 3:30 PM Heinz Lycklama <heinz at osta.com
> <mailto:heinz at osta.com>> wrote:
> INTERACTIVE Systems Corp. (ISC) also ported a UNIX system to an
> early VAX 11/750 computer running DEC's VMS operating system
> starting in mid- 1978. ISC was in the business of porting the
> UNIX operating system to many different computer hardware
> architectures, mini-computers to mainframes, but the first
> complete UNIX system port was actually done to the DEC VMS
> system. We delivered the first UNIX on VMS system to a customer
> in the Fall of 1979. Many of these systems were delivered to
> customers in North America as well as in Europe well into
> the mid-1980's.
> What relationship, if any, does this have to V32? Or maybe "Was that
> based on V7 or V32?" is the right question...
> Also, this wasn't something that I had on my list... Any chance
> there's a paper / article / etc on this?
> And thank you for your remembrance...
> On 1/15/2021 6:29 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 3:18 PM John Cowan <cowan at ccil.org
>> <mailto:cowan at ccil.org>> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 3:14 PM Dave Horsfall
>> <dave at horsfall.org <mailto:dave at horsfall.org>> wrote:
>> > Whose foray? Not DEC's. Eunice was built at SRI and
>> sold by the
>> > Wollongong Group, who must have had Downundrian
>> It was
>> originally developed ca. 1981 by David Kashtan at SRI
>> and later
>> maintained and marketed by The Wollongong Group.''
>> Where's the disagreement?
>> Eunice post-dated DEC's first Unix offering by several years.
>> They sold V7 and later V7M before rebranding it to Ultrix. Eunice
>> was 4.1BSD (later 4.2 and 4.3) that Dr Kashtan grafted into VMS
>> in ways that... provoke strong feelings among reviewers... The
>> TCP/IP stack that was inside of Eunice would form the basis for
>> Wollongong's TCP/IP offerings on VMS... A more refined version,
>> also done I think by Kashtan, was marketed by TGV and there was
>> always much rivalry between the two companies...
>> Wollongong got its license because they were the marketing
>> company formed to market Dr. Miller's port to Interdata, and they
>> later branched out significantly because their license was so
>> special... Or at least that's the story they told customers and
>> internally... I never saw the original license to know...
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