[TUHS] Atari System V media and books?

Michael Parson mparson at bl.org
Fri Feb 7 01:50:39 AEST 2020

On 2020-02-05 21:54, Larry McVoy wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 09:44:02PM -0600, Michael Parson wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Feb 2020, Chris Hanson wrote:
>> >On Jan 18, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Michael Parson <mparson at bl.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Speaking of old versions of Motif, are the sources for the
>> >>pre-OpenMotif bits available anywhere?  Even if under lock and key
>> >>for now, I'd be happy knowing they'd been preserved for potential
>> >>future availability.
>> >
>> >There are Motif 1.1 sources on Bitsavers (or your favorite mirror)
>> >at <http://www.bitsavers.org/bits/OSF/OSF_Motif_Src_1.1.X/
>> ><http://www.bitsavers.org/bits/OSF/OSF_Motif_Src_1.1.X/>>.
>> Thank you!
> Part of me is wondering why anyone cares about Motif.  My memory of 
> that
> is that Xview was better and the Athena widgets were better.  Athena 
> was
> ugly but it worked, Xview, the X11 version of Sunview, was fantastic to
> program in,  the argv was a set of 2 tuples, thing and value.  And it
> looked better.  I've written Xview apps and other than the Tk part of
> Tcl/Tk, it was the most pleasant GUI API I have used.  For the record,
> the Tk part of Tcl/Tk is still, decades later, the best GUI interface
> I've ever seen.  John got that right.
> So no offense intended, what about Motif is likeable?

No offense taken.  It's not so much that it's "likeable", at least, any
more than playing with any old software is "likeable".  It only crossed
my radar because someone mentioned that it was available for Atari UNIX
(ASV), would those bits be able to be used on Amiga UNIX (AMIX)?  I was
able to pull the bits off the ASV images and get them running on AMIX,
but it requires setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to load the ASV X11 libs, so, I
thought, if I could get my hands on the source, I could compile it 
the AMIX supplied libs, then maybe try and get Mosaic compiled as well.

Michael Parson
Pflugerville, TX

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