[TUHS] Another "craft" discussion topic - mindless tool proliferation

Steffen Nurpmeso steffen at sdaoden.eu
Thu Sep 21 02:49:59 AEST 2017

Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com> wrote:
 |On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 06:13:40PM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote:
 |> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 06:09:27PM -0700, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
 |>>> On Sep 19, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com> wrote:
 |>>> Put it on the web and move on.
 |>> My main gripe about that is that I can't read the web when the router \
 |>> I'm trying to install won't work, keeping me from the needed web \
 |>> documentation ...
 |>> *Please* write your documentation in a way that allows you to generate \
 |>> (useful, readable!) PDF documents that I can download for offline \
 |>> viewing.  Believe it or not, I don't haul along a 300 mile cat-5 \
 |>> cable when I go sailing.  I still like to write code on the boat. \
 |>>  So much for Go :-P
 |>> And $GOD help everyone in the Caribbean trying to bootstrap their \
 |>> infrastructure right now.  How is your https://... documentation \
 |>> going to help them out?
 |> Dude, you are talking to the guy who wrote webroff, a tool that takes -ms
 |> markup and puts on the web.  Our website was done in webroff for years and
 |> you could take all the source and produce a pdf.
 |Here's an example:
 |is the source, you can look at those files, they are nroff -ms source,
 |and then look at 
 |and you'll see the web version of the docs.  Which is pretty useful.
 |You've got all the .NH 1 headers in the table of contents down the
 |left side, and when you click one of them it shows you the .NH 2,
 |.NH 3 etc headers for just that section.
 |And if you go to
 |you can get html versions of any .NH 1 section, or the entire thing as one
 |It's a ~1700 line perl program (perl 4ish) and it has some ability to skin
 |the content.  Source in http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/bkdocs/UG/webroff

That is pretty cool indeed.

|Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

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